[DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, Joe, I agree. In fact one of the reasons I made so many good 
friends in the DeLorean community was because of this forum. As John 
said is a FORUM. And despite the fact that this is a forum, we are 
being moderated so we should be backing up what we say, so here it is:

fo·rum    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fôrm, fr-)
n. pl. fo·rums, also fo·ra (fôr, fr) 

The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was 
the assembly place for judicial activity and public business. 
A public meeting place for open discussion. 
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper 
or a radio or television program. 
A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among 
experts and often including audience participation. 
A court of law; a tribunal. 

This is from dictionary.com and I see there "open discussion" and 
it's PUBLIC. So that is what this is for. Come on moderators, what is 
this about? Most of the members who voiced their opinion complained 
about the fact that you are moderating a member. Be it Marc or 
anybody else. I never met Ryan, but I know he is an intelligent guy 
who has contributed to the list, but this is over the top. I met Greg 
and he is a great guy and I am surprised he is backing up this 
decision. And Marc is a very good friend, we always had intelligent 
discussions and he is one of the people who will go out of his way to 
help you. I admire him because he believes in what he believes and is 
not a chicken to voice his opinion, I see that as a virtue because as 
Erik pointed, Marc was always the same person. 
But it doesn't matter how his character is or if any of us agree with 
him, the point is that he is a member and it got started with him and 
maybe I'll be the next one to be banned because I was always on the 
non god worshiping side of the religious discussions (which were 
always fun) and always on the liberal side of the political 
discussions that were fun too. We are all intelligent adults able to 
have conversations about any topic and holding a grudge against 
someone you don't know, or even that you know jsut because I like 
blue and such and such likes green is just plain stupid and we are 
not in kidergarten anymore. 
Why don't you guys just chill and let everyone have fun here. This is 
entertainment, you are ruling freedom of speech. Isn't it so much 
better to discuss with people who think different from you so you can 
see other people's view points and learn from it?
I am sure that even if I didn't know Marc I'd be able to see his 
point and the injustice that was practiced here. And really, as 
Martin (another good friend) said, what is the point of all this BS? 
And I don't care if Marc sent private messages to Ryan, if they were 
private, then you 2 deal with it. I just want to see the forum 
active, learn about all different kinds of things from members and 
make new friends. 
I don't even know who the moderators are here and I don't care, there 
shouldn't be moderators, except to ban spammers. And rules? the DML 
has rules so if you only want to talk about DeLoreans and you get 
offended if someone thinks A and you think B, then don't read it! I 
was tempted to create a DeLorean banned topics forum, but I don't 
have the time to do that stuff, I also think it's pointless to make 
1,000000000000... different lists for the same group of people, so 
let us talk about everything here and be friends. Is that so hard?

My 2 cent........


Flavia

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@...> 
wrote:
>
> What about the other 338 members here? Do you feel the same as 
Marc, Erik,
> Jon, Martin & Matt? Now is the time to voice your opinion.
> 
> 
> Well, yeah,
> 
> That's why I haven't been active here in months. Saw it pointless 
with
> moderation.
> 
> I heard about this recent tirade from some messages at dmctalk.com
> where I've been posting for the last year.
> 
> 
> -Joe O'Brien
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ryan Wright" <ryanpwright@> wrot
> 
> >
> > Erik, Jon, Martin & Matt:
> > 
> > The group rules have been in place since last October. Why are you
> just now
> > voicing your opposition to them?
> > 
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/message/30562
> > 
> > "Trolling will not be tolerated"
> > 
> > "Once a warning has been posted, it is no longer open for public
> > discussion. This includes any commentary about moderator actions. 
If
> > you have a complaint, contact the moderators privately."
> > 
> > Marc isn't happy with the list rules. Instead of discussing them
> with us in
> > private, he dragged the entire list into it. He was asked to 
stop, he
> > refused. I don't see the problem here.
> > 
> > But, please, now that we're already embroiled in the discussion,
> tell us why
> > you aren't happy with the rules that were established last year 
and
> why you
> > waited so long to speak up.
> > 
> > What about the other 338 members here? Do you feel the same as 
Marc,
> Erik,
> > Jon, Martin & Matt? Now is the time to voice your opinion.
> > 
> > -Ryan
> > 
> > On 7/18/06, Matt Spittle <matthew.spittle@> wrote:
> > >
> > >   I'll jump on the wagon, too. I don't think we should be 
moderating
> > > anyone in this forum. We have the DML for that.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > #1604
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <DMCForum%40yahoogroups.com>, 
Jon
> Heese
> > > <dmcforum@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I, for one, don't think we should put an end to this 
discussion,
> or any
> > > > discussion for that matter. That's the whole point.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/