Hey, I never said it was something defensible or productive to report or likely to result in anything meaningful (in fact, I think I said that opposite). I just said it was something that he could report. Regards, Jon Heese Ryan Wright wrote: > On 6/20/06, Jon Heese <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> It isn't illegal to call someone a name, but it is illegal to threaten >> someone with violence or their property with damage. > > Don't be so sure about that. > > Have you ever known someone who had a restraining order against > another person? I have, and let me tell you: These people call names. > They make harassing phone calls. They threaten - sometimes they > threaten to kill you. You know what? The police and the courts don't > do a damned thing about it. > > Women often get restraining orders against their estranged husbands, > and I have seen several high profile cases in the news over the years > where the man threatens repeatedly to kill the woman. The police grant > a restraining order but otherwise, they will do nothing. The victim is > told, "Well, when he actually shows up on your property, then we'll > respond." > > IF Monty threatened Bob and IF Bob has some kind of proof of that, > then there is a slim chance Bob can get a restraining order against > Monty. That said, knowing Bob - between his physical appearance and > the manner in which he composes himself - I'd have a hard time > believing a judge would grant that restraining order unless Monty is > also the intimidating sort. Bob is obviously not afraid of Monty and, > generally speaking, a judge is looking for some sort of fear, or a > severe harassment situation, before he will grant a restraining order. > > Bob certainly won't get any money, or even convince the police to pay > Monty a visit. > >> I agree that this will get absolutely nowhere, but nonetheless, Bob does >> have a crime to report, whether it actually happened or not. > > Like I said, I'm not so sure threatening someone is illegal, and I > know it's not a crime. It might be a misdemeanor in some states. Even > if it is, these laws rarely have teeth, and with Bob following Monty > around all weekend with the videocamera, no judge is going to side > with him. > > -Ryan > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/