And what better time to throw myself into the mess! :) First, let me say that I don't agree with the vulgar stickers on Monte's car at DCS for the same reason I wouldn't agree with porno being shown at DCS - there were children present. Secondly, and equally, I don't agree with touching anyone else's car. I agree that there seems to be a lot of competition in this prop-building community, and it could easily be seen on Ebay. As an example, I once e-mailed Bruce Coulombe on E-bay, asking him why he sold flux capacitors with replica components, but yet he was buying the authentic components in other ebay auctions (as could be seen by doing a bidder search). He sent me a very long and angry e-mail back to me that started with "Gary W..." Clearly, he thought that I was Gary, and there were some negative feelings there. The e-mail went on to say that Bruce was licensed by Universal, Gary was not, and Bruce could put an end to Gary's then-time machine replica by making a few phone calls. I had asked Gary for help in the past finding parts to build my own flux capacitor, but he wouldn't tell me. I did some searching, found a source for what appeareed to be the authentic parts, and then sent it to Gary and asked him if the parts were correct. He said yes, and that I had found the "Holy Grail." This was www.fairradio.com. I went and bought the $75 worth of parts, only to find out later that they weren't the right parts. Some time later, I asked Gary if a particular e-bay auction was selling the right parts. He said no, so I didn't bid. To my surprise, he later bid on that same item and won the auction. At least then I knew what the right parts were. >From this, it became clear to me that Gary was interested in making money, and would do anything to protect his business strategy even if it meant telling kids the wrong information. I didn't like Gary after that. Bruce C., on the other hand, after I told him in response to his angry e-mail that, in fact, I wasn't Gary W., went ahead and sent me FREE AUTHENTIC PARTS to help me build my own flux capacitor replica. Talk about a nice guy. In short, I can sympathize with VB's frustration with Gary. I think that some of those who are involved with BTTF prop-making have made things very ugly for the rest of the fans. Matt #1604 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/