As I said before, we wouldn't even be talking about this if VB hadn't brought it up. Look at the link I posted with the picture of the car and try to find that massive banner in discussion. My understanding, and Gary or anyone else please correct me if I am wrong here, is this is a very fine line to walk when recreating these parts since Universal owns the rights to the BTTF stuff. If someone started mass producing these parts and selling them publicly for profit they may step in and put a halt to this. If that happens chances are we will never see another one of these converted cars unless someone pays for the rights or is able to make an agreement with Universal. That could also mean the currently converted cars could be confiscated. Barris did that to at least one fan-created Batmobile. I would one day like to build one of these cars and if that was prevented by a few people seeking to make a profit and pissing off Universal then I will be pissed. Again, someone please correct me if I am wrong about the rights and usage here. How would you feel if after a lot of hard work and research to make something, someone else copied it and sold it? They didn't have to do anything but take yours apart and reproduce it where you may have months if not years of work, time and money invested. I don't think the actions of a few, or one, represent an entire community. Greg -----Original Message----- From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avi Sarfaraz Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:58 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Inappropriate Car Show Behavior? You guys do realize this is all very childish. I dont speak up often, one of reasons being I dont own a DeLorean anymore. BTTF props are cute, emphasis CUTE. I havent met anyone "big name" but Ken, and Ken is a very cool, very nice man who I have had the pleasure to meet here in MN. Props business, must be very competitive, because you have a niche product which only 1 of 1000 will ever care to buy from you. If your going to sell to contemporaries then what you need to do, is copyright your products, and have a nice legal disclaimer by buying it they may not tamper with it, or reproudce it or sell it, you guys seem to work to much on a personal level and not on a professional business level, where if someone is going to copy your design, then you slap him with a lawsuit and take him out of busines, the good ol american way that I am so very fond of..no threats, just evidence, and a letter telling them to report to court. I dont know the details of it but if you restrict the ability to allow for copyright infringement or replication of your products, and dont have the smarts to remove them in the first place......then you deserve what you get. Im not saying I know it all, but im saying you guys can definately setup countermeasures for the type of bs you guys are talking about. If there are threats made, then well, its unacceptable, if you want to settle it, take it to your local boxing ring. If you want to settle it like businessmen - you are businessmen right? - you know...professional businessmen, who have morals and whatnot? Then settle it like gentlemen...Slander is bad for everyone, I dont think I'd buy from anyone of you guys for that sort of behavior... You should all be ashamed for the childish behavior you guys have all brought to a head, you make the whole community look like a bunch of assholes ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/