Re: [DMCForum] Re: Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hell yeah!

Way to go and i couldnt have said it better.

Mark V


On Nov 27, 2005, at 4:20 AM, Joe OBrien wrote:

> " but not when it comes the used dealers.
>  Think about how many different cars are out there to know?"
>
>  The is the guy is too damn lazy to know the facts about exotic cars
>  since he SELLS exotic cars, then he shouldn't be selling them.
>
>  Most people that sell exotic cars don't make ridiculous statements
>  with zero facts about a car. That shows his ignorance.
>
>  I will happily continue to bash these slimeball sellers because that
>  is what they are. Just greasy used car slaesman out to make a buck.
>
>  The ones that advertise exactly what they are selling, even if not
>  100% accurate are fine. But to make opiniated stupid comments like
>  the current seller we are nitpicking on is just ridiculous.
>
>  It is the sellers that hype up cars with problems and other facts to
>  make buyers fooled into thinking they are getting more than they are
>  are the main ones I bash.
>
>  Lie the guys that say "I decided NOT to charge the ac to leave the r-
>  12 or 134a conversion up to them to decide. Aw what a guy.
>
>  Or the ones who leave parts off for "weight reduction mods" ... Jeesh!
>
>  If they just list them honestly no problem, but dancing around issues
>  without fully listing them, or blatantly just being dead wrong with
>  your facts as a sign that they just want to sell to the first sucker
>  are the ones who'll I'll always bash.
>
>  Just always hate the greasy used car salesman mentality, and hate
>  when it spills over to the Delorean as well.
>
>  Maybe these comments help newbies avoid getting suckered into a
>  basketcase??? Gives them some info to shop with?
>
>
>  -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>  --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxx>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > Oh you do have valid points for sure. I agree that low tires are
>  an obvious
>  > thing to rectify, as are us telling potential new owners about
>  possible
>  > problems.Â
>  >
>  > What I have an issue with is owners bashing these eBay auctions
>  even before
>  > potential owners ask, then making them all sound like they are
>  cheats or
>  > conning people.
>  >
>  > Now Ron was saying he got his wife's car from this same dealer and
>  has been
>  > very happy with them. Also he points out that most of the cars are
>  exotic
>  > cars on consignment. That being said I would not expect all the
>  sales force
>  > to know or understand all the nuances of these cars. You can know
>  only so
>  > much about every car you sell if you are a dealer.
>  >
>  > As for your truck, I agree that a salesman at a new car dealership
>  should
>  > know his cars/trucks inside and out, but not when it comes the used
>  dealers.
>  > Think about how many different cars are out there to know?
>  >
>  > :)
>  >
>  > Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
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>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>  Behalf
>  > Of timnagin
>  > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:26 PM
>  > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: [DMCForum] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...
>  >
>  > Not trying to hijack a topic, but...
>  >
>  > I agree with some of what you stated, Jack, but would you ever buy
>  something
>  > from someone who didn't understand their own product?
>  >
>  > I could give them not knowing the bonnet was different, but the
>  tire being
>  > almost flat? They clean the vehicles to make them look better so
>  that
>  > detail should have been noticed early on.
>  >
>  > If they can not take a few seconds to ensure some details, such as
>  > misspellings, can anyone be absolutely sure they didn't over look
>  anything
>  > really important? A friend recently went to buy a new truck and
>  the sales
>  > guy was clueless. It was as if he didn't even do his homework on
>  the
>  > product he was trying to sell and had to go ask the sales manager.Â
>  What the
>  > hell was he there for?
>  >
>  > Finally, there are people who come to these lists trying to learn
>  more about
>  > their future purchase and may not be aware of these things that
>  long-time
>  > owners consider commonplace. I am not bashing you, just offering
>  another
>  > opinion, and we all know what opinions are like. :)
>  >
>  > Greg
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>  Behalf Of
>  > Jack Stiefel
>  > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:01 PM
>  > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: RE: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
>  >
>  > Now once in a while (more often now that the DeLorean Police are in
>  force)
>  > an eBay auction come up and people rip into it. First off lets not
>  even try
>  > to argue DMCVIN6683, his arguments are indeed valid, but that's not
>  the
>  > whole story.
>  >
>  > I am not affiliated with this seller or any other, but sometimes I
>  get
>  > perturbed about these little things.
>  >
>  > This place is obviously a used car dealership getting many cars in
>  each
>  > month and there are tons of rumors that are about the history of
>  these cars,
>  > but lets face it, do you really expect everyone selling a car to
>  know
>  > everything about such car? This place got this on a trade, why
>  would they
>  > know when the hood was changed? Maybe this car was returned to the
>  original
>  > dealer for repairs and that was the only hood they still had in
>  stock?
>  > Maybe they wanted that hood and changed it? Is every car that was
>  ever
>  > built pieced together if any part was replaced?Â
>  >
>  > If you got a good deal on a trade in for your dealership, would you
>  spend
>  > hours reading up on each and every car, or would you take a lot of
>  shots of
>  > the car and ask a fair market value for it? I for one would sell
>  the car,
>  > providing as much detail as was necessary.
>  >
>  > I mean come on, the tire is low? There is a mis-spelling on the
>  page?
>  > These are things to be concerned about? Ok, yes the lack of frame
>  pics is
>  > suspect, but really if you were selling an old Ford would you crawl
>  under it
>  > and take a lot of shots? Has anyone asked this guy for any frame
>  pics? I
>  > wouldn't even know what markings my car does/should have for
>  updates, and I
>  > own 2, one for 8 years now!!!
>  >
>  > This auction might indeed be a bad deal or a great one, but if the
>  DeLorean
>  > Police bash every one that comes along, none will be sold as
>  potential
>  > buyers will stray away.
>  >
>  > Just my 2 cents, but lets all try to keep eBay auctions in
>  perspective.
>  >
>  > Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
>  > DMC Vin 03461 1981 Grey 5 speed
>  > DMC Vin 16879 1983 Black 5 speed
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>  > Come hang out in The DMC Lounge --
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>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>  Behalf Of
>  > DMCVIN6683
>  > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:54 PM
>  > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: Re: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
>  >
>  > The owner claims it is a real Delorean because it is a early 1981
>  and
>  > all the other cars are pieced together. Funny how his car has a gas
>  > flap hood and they were not available for his VIN# so it appears
>  his is
>  > pieced together as well. Oh yeah the color of the car is Stainless
>  > Steel not Stainless Steal like he has it on the ad. Also the right
>  rear
>  > tire is almost flat, he could at least put air in it for the
>  photos. I
>  > think he wants too much for it but this is my opinions.
>  >
>  > No pictures of the underbody so i am assuming there may be rust
>  because
>  > he has lots of pictures of the interior to make you forget about
>  the
>  > underbody and none of the frame and we all know how the frames can
>  > rust. Also i dont see any markings showing any of the safety
>  > campaign/recalls have been done. I would have somebody check it out
>  for
>  > you if you are serious.
>  >
>  >
>  > Typical used car sales man attitude i get by reading the
>  description
>  > and not knowledgeable about the car at all.
>  >
>  > Just my opinions and i dont like fast pitch fancy sales ad's to
>  make
>  > you think you are buying more than you see or making you think it
>  is
>  > more of a car than it really is.
>  >
>  > Good luck.
>  >
>  >
>  > On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Alberts wrote:
>  >
>  > > I'm thinking of placing a bid on eBay for the DeLorean at Charles
>  > > Schmidt
>  > > and Company. Does anybody have any specific knowledge about the
>  car?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks,
>  > >
>  > > Dennis
>  >
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