Re: [DMCForum] Re: de-emissioning (Marc)

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Fuel Economy *IS* emissions.

Best I can tell, you removed those components because
your too lazy to replace them??  Or like the way the
engine looks without them?

I sometimes try hard to see things from your point of
view, but I can't get my head that far up my ass.


--- content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I thought I made that clear in my post:
> 
> EGR: I oppose the concept of making an engine
> breathe its own exhaust.
> EGR is a fuel economy measure anyway, not emissions.
> This particular
> system was MUCH larger than the old fashioned
> diaphragms too, which
> put it all in my way.
> 
> Smog pump: Again, the plumbing was in the way
> (couldn't remove
> passenger side spark plugs with it in place). Would
> have been useless
> once I put the new exhaust system on anyway.
> 
> Thermactor bank: Overlayed the coil, which made
> installing its wire
> difficult. Also had to be removed to remove the
> driver side valve
> cover. And without a smog pump the thermactors have
> nothing to do.
> Jetisoning them also allowed me to jetison those
> stupid hard plastic
> vacuum lines.
> 
> The engine compartment looks much less cluttered
> now. I really don't
> like to see a thousand wires & hoses when I pop a
> hood. I definitely
> don't like to work around them. Simplicity used to
> be a virtue...
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy
> <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> > And your reason for doing this was........?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- content22207 <brobertson@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > Only removed EGR, smog pump, and the thermactor
> bank
> > > (and the vacuum
> > > canister associated with the thermactor bank).
> EGR's
> > > supposed to help
> > > with fuel economy, but I oppose making an engine
> > > breathe its own
> > > exhaust on principle if nothing else. This
> > > particular EGR sent signals
> > > back to the engine management computer, so
> without
> > > its rheostat the
> > > computer thought it was wide open and leaned my
> > > mixture out too much
> > > (the joys of EFI screwing around with mixture).
> I
> > > tied the rheostat
> > > lines together so now the computer thinks EGR is
> > > closed all the time
> > > -- considering it has a pipe plug in its port,
> it
> > > essentially is
> > > closed all the time. I figure the O2 sensor can
> deal
> > > with any
> > > enrichment issues that may cause. Smog pump has
> > > absolutely no effect
> > > on an engine (is piped into the exhaust side)
> other
> > > that drag. Its
> > > plumbing however was all in my way (couldn't
> reach
> > > the passenger side
> > > spark plugs). Without the smog pump, there's no
> need
> > > for the
> > > thermactors. Without the thermactors, there's no
> > > need for their vacuum
> > > canister. Without the vacuum canister, there's
> no
> > > need for those silly
> > > hard plastic vacuum lines (remaining vacuum
> lines
> > > have been replaced
> > > with fuel line hose).
> > > 
> > > Plugs look good and fuel economy is comparable
> to a
> > > 2 barrel (15-16
> > > MPG), so I consider the de-emissioning a
> success.
> > > This was the first
> > > time I ever de-emissioned an engine with
> computer
> > > controlled ignition
> > > & fuel delivery so I wasn't sure how it would
> turn
> > > out. 
> > 
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