RE: [DMCForum] Re: My Delorean is for sale

["Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mark that was good for a laugh.  Maybe we all should do that with any
other vehicle we have (for those who are not using out D as a daily
driver) and send them to our new buddy?  We got Marks Windstar, I will
take some of the Hummer, Marc you take the SHO, Bill take some of the
Lincolns, and Rich lets see the D-Rex.

Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
DMC Vin 03461
www.fmtimemachine.com
 

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From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of DMCVIN6683
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:36 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: My Delorean is for sale

I could do that to.

I just need a piece of cardboard and a digital camera but mine would 
say "Windstar not DMC". This doesnt prove anything.

Mark V



On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:32 PM, rotaryexperimental7 wrote:

> Yea....
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> Here is a little photo diary for you. I'm not Tom.
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> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/dmc3.jpg
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> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/dmc1.jpg
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> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/dmc2.jpg
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> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx> 
> wrote:
>> You know,
>>
>> You sound an awful lot like a crazy owner of a shitty green & black
>> Delorean named Thomas McCoy. You join the group under a new name,
>> and immediately start spewing the SAME exact moronic nonsense about
>> how cars don't need cooling fans, and how lexan windshields are
>> weight reductions, etc, etc.
>>
>> Thomas, why did you make another Yahoo name to try and create a
>> false persona to try and revive the retard arguement again about
>> your car? NOONE is going to believe the line of crap that you don't
>> need cooling fans, just get over it, it is a no win arguement. In
>> traffic, the car is NON drivable.
>>
>> Just give it a rest, fix the car properly, make it drivable to
>> a "NORMAL" owner, and then try to honestly sell it again. No BS
>> lines about how the broken crap is weight reduction modifications.
>>
>> No shady used car salesmen lines, just fix it correctly and sell it,
>> or just have everyone continue to ridicule you over your ridiculous
>> lies.
>>
>> Your choice, mr "RX-7"
>>
>> Is that your "real" name??
>>
>>
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rotaryexperimental7"
>> <rotaryexperimental7@xxxx> wrote:
>>> I never said a ASE certification was the sole determinant of
>>> automotive abilities... while learnign through osmosis isnt
>> possible,
>>> growing up in a household with the only major hobbies being cars,
>>> motorcycles and computers you learn quite a bit. It is true I may
>> not
>>> know the extent of personal education behind many of you however
>> from
>>> those posts about the cooling system and the ludicris comments
>> made it
>>> certianly didnt reinforce any extensive background in cars. As
>> long as
>>> the vehicle is moving the fans are not needed, it is true that to
>>> remain dorment for any extended period (More that five minutes) it
>>> will be an issue -- this was stated as the car cannot sit in
>> traffic
>>> in heat.
>>>
>>> I've never seen him twist the tales of his car around but I'll give
>>> you the benifit of the doubt for this anyways. So we can be civil
>>> about this and discuss each topic seperately until conclusions are
>>> made that resemble factual information. I have seen the car first
>> hand
>>>  where as I dont think many here have. If you want to have a debate
>>> about this all facists comments and such aside lets go ahead and
>> start
>>> a list to discuss.
>>>
>>> About defense, I always come to the aid of my friends as they do
>> for
>>> me... since such a crowd has outlashed against him he obviously
>> isnt
>>> going to win back any fans on his own.
>>>
>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>> Okay. So you tried to attack people here by saying that we don't
>> know
>>>> what we're talking about, because none of us are ASE Certified.
>> And
>>>> then you proceed to tell us that you are not ASE Certified
>> either. So
>>>> by you logic here, you too are totally clueless. Remember, you
>> can't
>>>> use hypocracy as a loophole. And you can't learn shit by osmosis
>>>> either. So don't hand me some line of bullshit that "Because some
>>>> other moron I know is ASE certified, that automaticly endows me
>> with
>>>> their knowlege." Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way, son.
>>>>
>>>> What your buddy there got his ass ripped on for, was the fact
>> that
>>>> when questioned about shit, he kept changing the story. Now so
>> that
>>>> we're on the same page, I'll start this over. And as a bonus,
>> I'll
>>>> also use simple words so that you can understand too. Umkay?
>>>>
>>>> "The Gigger!R" was saying that his car didn't need cooling fans,
>>>> because it was tuned so well. And he went on to say that if
>> anyone
>>>> else had to have cooling fans installed on their cars, that
>> something
>>>> is wrong with their engines. Now, cooling fans are needed for
>> both
>>>> proper engine operation, as well as a safety feature to keep it
>> from
>>>> overheating in traffic. When driving, the air being forced thru
>> the
>>>> radiator, caused by the velocity of the car ("velocity" is a big
>> word,
>>>> so let me know if you don't understand it) as it's driving does
>> take
>>>> the place of the fans turning. But when a vehicle is stopped in
>>>> traffic, and no airflow crosses the radiator because the car
>> isn't
>>>> moving, the cooling fans will force air across, so that the
>> engine
>>>> will stay cool. Do you understand this? If not, visit
>>>> http://www.howstuffworks.com If you can grasp this concept,
>> please
>>>> continue on to the next paragraph (that means group of words).
>>>>
>>>> Now, let's get down to the nitty gritty here. "The Gigger!R"
>> claimed
>>>> that DeLoreans don't need cooling fans. We rebutted him on this,
>> with
>>>> the valid argument above. Your friend there proceeded to BACK
>> DOWN
>>>> from us, and then claimed that no, he doesn't let the car idle in
>>>> traffic. Which is absolutely contrary to what you posted. Which
>> has by
>>>> the way, totally discredited you to everyone here.
>>>>
>>>> Sabotage his auction? No. This was all a straight argument with
>> him,
>>>> over his oblivious stupidity. You must keep in mind that being a
>> ricer
>>>> doesn't just mean owning a ruined car. It also encompasses a
>> huge ego,
>>>> fueled by automotive and mechanical misinformation. I don't care
>> who
>>>> buys, or who didn't buy his car. If someone is dumb enough to
>> walk
>>>> into something like this without knowing what they're getting
>> into,
>>>> that's their fault.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure that there have been both negative, and positive
>> experience
>>>> in whatever online automotive communities. Of course, this is all
>>>> subjective dependant upon you individual viewpoint.
>>>>
>>>> Calling me a facist doesn't mean dick to me. I mean don't get me
>>>> wrong, it's always fun to watch someone feed on their own
>> emotions.
>>>> Especially anger. But surely you can do better than that? Try
>> harder
>>>> to insult me. I want to see your raw pain. Give me something to
>> laugh
>>>> at, please. Because otherwise, you're just a n00b troll. And
>> if "The
>>>> Gigger!R" is so upset about this whole thing, let him fend for
>> himself.
>>>>
>>>> -Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rotaryexperimental7"
>>>> <rotaryexperimental7@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>> You sir are a dick! I've read quite a bit of your posts and
>> they are
>>>>> all attacking Tom, same with a few other of you. You all seem
>> to have
>>>>> some twisted comraderey that involves your insane counter-
>> logic and
>>>>> everyone is out to get you mentality. I hope you enjoy your
>> sheltered
>>>>> and corrupt lives that dont follow through with honest
>> research of
>>>>> situations. Of all the car groups I've been a member of
>> through my
>>>>> many ownerships  of vehicles (Thunderbird Owneres Club,
>> 240sx/NICO,
>>>>> RX-7 Club, Bullitt Mustang Owners Club, etc) they all were
>> kind to
>>>>> others alike 'comrade' or otherwise to the red leader of your
>> facist
>>>>> resigm of vehicle ownership. I've never seen such political
>> bullshit
>>>>> in my life...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've known Tom for quite some time and I know his car quite
>> well too.
>>>>> The front windscreen is lexan, big deal -- lightweight, OMG.
>> The
>>>>> cooling fans were removed... so his engine was obviously
>> destroyed.
>>>>> Seriously are any of you mechanics or related to any? Ever
>> hear of ASE
>>>>> certification or even mechanical engineering? Yea -- once you
>> know a
>>>>> little bit about cars and these pretty little temperature
>> guages
>>>>> you'll understand that he never destroyed his motor. I've
>> ridden
>>>>> several hundred miles in this car and it never overheated
>> once; in
>>>>> heavy traffic it would start to get warm but as soon as
>> movement
>>>>> resumed all was well and temps returned to normal. BTW, the
>> side
>>>>> windows are glass, he stated the 'tollbooth' windows were
>> removed as
>>>>> well as the motors/brackets, however the main glass was still
>> intact.
>>>>> The fact that someone who has never seen the vehicle outside
>> of a few
>>>>> digital images can claim that he took plastic and painted it
>> with a
>>>>> felt-tip pen is ludicris and makes me laugh that you SHEOPLE
>> would buy
>>>>> into such claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks are subjective, however I assume that under the commie
>>>>> principles you all live under free will and opinions arent
>> allowed.
>>>>> None of you purist assholes liked his cars paintjob or what
>> else he
>>>>> had done to differentiate himself from the pack and therefore
>> you
>>>>> abused and attacked him relentlously for months and then
>> sabotaged his
>>>>> auction which was legitimate. If any of you lived under some
>> sort of
>>>>> common sense; why wouldnt the fact it said OTHER instead of
>> CLEAN lend
>>>>> the idea that it wasnt a standard title and if you had any real
>>>>> consern, maybe you should ASK!
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to buy his Delorean at one point but I already have
>> plenty of
>>>>>  toys under my belt right now so I couldnt afford the time to
>> care for
>>>>> another. However, his car was quite unique and while you may
>> consider
>>>>> it rice, his car recieved more attention then ANY of my
>>>>> previous/current possibly future cars would ever recieve.
>> People that
>>>>> didnt like Deloreans even liked his, so I guess other people
>> just have
>>>>> differant opinions in the free world... welcome to all things
>>>>> subjective.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and one last thing... would you archaic commie freaks join
>> the
>>>>> 21st century and get a real forum instead of this nasty reject
>> of a
>>>>> system? Seriously, it isnt very hard to implement PHPBB or
>> VbBB, PHPBB
>>>>> is free and takes only a couple of hours to setup from start to
>>>>> finish. As a network engineer myself I cant help but laugh at
>> this
>>>>> 'advanced race' of vehicle owners that are so high and mighty
>> and yet
>>>>> they can not pull themselves away from the most basic and crude
>>>>> systems of communication in light of much more functional and
>>>>> effeciant options.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck to you all in the many lives you ruin in your little
>> worlds
>>>>> of self-hatred and loathing.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien"
>> <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I see you finally broke down and installed the fans
>> for the
>>>>> new
>>>>>> owners, "free of charge".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why the hell didn't you just do that BEFORE the auction
>> started? It
>>>>>> would have saved you tons of greif trying to defend this
>> piece of
>>>>> shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one wanted it in the rice mode you had it in, and I
>> seriously
>>>>> doubt
>>>>>> they'll feel any performance loss with the added weight of
>> those
>>>>> fans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only feel sorry for the poor bastard beachdrifterusa who
>> bought
>>>>> your
>>>>>> junker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well, buyer beware. And now that the piece of shit has
>> sold,
>>>>> good
>>>>>> riddens to Thomas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, someone revoke his membership, Claude was better to
>> talk to
>>>>>> than Thomas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "thomaspaulmccoy"
>>>>>> <thomaspaulmccoy@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The seller claims that the car features "tinted glass".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All Deloreans come standard with tinted glass. Please
>> refer to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> factory window sticker:  http://www.entermywor
>>>>> ld.com/myd/wspage.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but the work to restore it is going to be a huge task.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who said anything about restoration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> windows in the photos were drawn with a magic marker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ludicrous. Do I need to make a video of me passing my hand
>>>>> through
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> window opening?
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