Re: [DMCForum] Re: My Delorean is for sale

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well i give you credit for showing your face.

Maybe you are not Mccoy then, we do not know what he looks like.

Mark V



On Jul 4, 2005, at 6:44 PM, rotaryexperimental7 wrote:

> Well considering Tom lives about an hour from me this will have to do
> for now. Maybe he will journey up here sometime soon, after all he has
> cooling fans now so the possibilities are limitless!
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/ 
> rx7again.jpg
>
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxx> wrote:
>> Wow that must not be you then.
>>
>> Let me see..... You park your Delorean next to your buddies RX-7 and
>> take pictures of your hands holding a "Not DMC" piece of cardboard
>> shows that you own a RX-7 and not a Delorean?
>>
>> Hmm.....
>>
>> I have some 35mm pictures of my Delorean parked next to my Windstar
>> after a car show in the parking lot, does this mean i cant drive 2  
>> cars
>> at once or does it mean somebody drove the Windstar to the show to  
>> meet
>> me there?
>>
>> How about a picture of your face? This would prove you were not MCCOY!
>>
>> Mark V
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:49 PM, rotaryexperimental7 wrote:
>>
>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/both.jpg
>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/both2.jpg
>>>
>>> Because I can drive two cars at once.
>>>
>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxx> wrote:
>>>> I could do that to.
>>>>
>>>> I just need a piece of cardboard and a digital camera but mine would
>>>> say "Windstar not DMC". This doesnt prove anything.
>>>>
>>>> Mark V
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:32 PM, rotaryexperimental7 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yea....
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a little photo diary for you. I'm not Tom.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/ 
>>>>> dmc3.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/ 
>>>>> dmc1.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/DMCrap/ 
>>>>> dmc2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You know,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sound an awful lot like a crazy owner of a shitty green &  
>>>>>> black
>>>>>> Delorean named Thomas McCoy. You join the group under a new name,
>>>>>> and immediately start spewing the SAME exact moronic nonsense  
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> how cars don't need cooling fans, and how lexan windshields are
>>>>>> weight reductions, etc, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas, why did you make another Yahoo name to try and create a
>>>>>> false persona to try and revive the retard arguement again about
>>>>>> your car? NOONE is going to believe the line of crap that you  
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> need cooling fans, just get over it, it is a no win arguement. In
>>>>>> traffic, the car is NON drivable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just give it a rest, fix the car properly, make it drivable to
>>>>>> a "NORMAL" owner, and then try to honestly sell it again. No BS
>>>>>> lines about how the broken crap is weight reduction modifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No shady used car salesmen lines, just fix it correctly and
> sell it,
>>>>>> or just have everyone continue to ridicule you over your  
>>>>>> ridiculous
>>>>>> lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your choice, mr "RX-7"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that your "real" name??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rotaryexperimental7"
>>>>>> <rotaryexperimental7@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> I never said a ASE certification was the sole determinant of
>>>>>>> automotive abilities... while learnign through osmosis isnt
>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>> growing up in a household with the only major hobbies being cars,
>>>>>>> motorcycles and computers you learn quite a bit. It is true I may
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> know the extent of personal education behind many of you however
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> those posts about the cooling system and the ludicris comments
>>>>>> made it
>>>>>>> certianly didnt reinforce any extensive background in cars. As
>>>>>> long as
>>>>>>> the vehicle is moving the fans are not needed, it is true that to
>>>>>>> remain dorment for any extended period (More that five minutes)  
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will be an issue -- this was stated as the car cannot sit in
>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>>> in heat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never seen him twist the tales of his car around but I'll
> give
>>>>>>> you the benifit of the doubt for this anyways. So we can be civil
>>>>>>> about this and discuss each topic seperately until conclusions  
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> made that resemble factual information. I have seen the car first
>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>  where as I dont think many here have. If you want to have a
> debate
>>>>>>> about this all facists comments and such aside lets go ahead and
>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> a list to discuss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About defense, I always come to the aid of my friends as they do
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> me... since such a crowd has outlashed against him he obviously
>>>>>> isnt
>>>>>>> going to win back any fans on his own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas"  
>>>>>>> <dmcvegas@xxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Okay. So you tried to attack people here by saying that we don't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> what we're talking about, because none of us are ASE Certified.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>> then you proceed to tell us that you are not ASE Certified
>>>>>> either. So
>>>>>>>> by you logic here, you too are totally clueless. Remember, you
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> use hypocracy as a loophole. And you can't learn shit by osmosis
>>>>>>>> either. So don't hand me some line of bullshit that "Because  
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> other moron I know is ASE certified, that automaticly endows me
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> their knowlege." Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way, son.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What your buddy there got his ass ripped on for, was the fact
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> when questioned about shit, he kept changing the story. Now so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> we're on the same page, I'll start this over. And as a bonus,
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>> also use simple words so that you can understand too. Umkay?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Gigger!®" was saying that his car didn't need cooling fans,
>>>>>>>> because it was tuned so well. And he went on to say that if
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> else had to have cooling fans installed on their cars, that
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> is wrong with their engines. Now, cooling fans are needed for
>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>> proper engine operation, as well as a safety feature to keep it
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> overheating in traffic. When driving, the air being forced thru
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> radiator, caused by the velocity of the car ("velocity" is a big
>>>>>> word,
>>>>>>>> so let me know if you don't understand it) as it's driving does
>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> the place of the fans turning. But when a vehicle is stopped in
>>>>>>>> traffic, and no airflow crosses the radiator because the car
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>> moving, the cooling fans will force air across, so that the
>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>> will stay cool. Do you understand this? If not, visit
>>>>>>>> http://www.howstuffworks.com If you can grasp this concept,
>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> continue on to the next paragraph (that means group of words).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, let's get down to the nitty gritty here. "The Gigger!®"
>>>>>> claimed
>>>>>>>> that DeLoreans don't need cooling fans. We rebutted him on this,
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the valid argument above. Your friend there proceeded to BACK
>>>>>> DOWN
>>>>>>>> from us, and then claimed that no, he doesn't let the car idle  
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> traffic. Which is absolutely contrary to what you posted. Which
>>>>>> has by
>>>>>>>> the way, totally discredited you to everyone here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sabotage his auction? No. This was all a straight argument with
>>>>>> him,
>>>>>>>> over his oblivious stupidity. You must keep in mind that being a
>>>>>> ricer
>>>>>>>> doesn't just mean owning a ruined car. It also encompasses a
>>>>>> huge ego,
>>>>>>>> fueled by automotive and mechanical misinformation. I don't care
>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> buys, or who didn't buy his car. If someone is dumb enough to
>>>>>> walk
>>>>>>>> into something like this without knowing what they're getting
>>>>>> into,
>>>>>>>> that's their fault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure that there have been both negative, and positive
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>> in whatever online automotive communities. Of course, this is  
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> subjective dependant upon you individual viewpoint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Calling me a facist doesn't mean dick to me. I mean don't get me
>>>>>>>> wrong, it's always fun to watch someone feed on their own
>>>>>> emotions.
>>>>>>>> Especially anger. But surely you can do better than that? Try
>>>>>> harder
>>>>>>>> to insult me. I want to see your raw pain. Give me something to
>>>>>> laugh
>>>>>>>> at, please. Because otherwise, you're just a n00b troll. And
>>>>>> if "The
>>>>>>>> Gigger!®" is so upset about this whole thing, let him fend for
>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rotaryexperimental7"
>>>>>>>> <rotaryexperimental7@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You sir are a dick! I've read quite a bit of your posts and
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>>> all attacking Tom, same with a few other of you. You all seem
>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>>>> some twisted comraderey that involves your insane counter-
>>>>>> logic and
>>>>>>>>> everyone is out to get you mentality. I hope you enjoy your
>>>>>> sheltered
>>>>>>>>> and corrupt lives that dont follow through with honest
>>>>>> research of
>>>>>>>>> situations. Of all the car groups I've been a member of
>>>>>> through my
>>>>>>>>> many ownerships  of vehicles (Thunderbird Owneres Club,
>>>>>> 240sx/NICO,
>>>>>>>>> RX-7 Club, Bullitt Mustang Owners Club, etc) they all were
>>>>>> kind to
>>>>>>>>> others alike 'comrade' or otherwise to the red leader of your
>>>>>> facist
>>>>>>>>> resigm of vehicle ownership. I've never seen such political
>>>>>> bullshit
>>>>>>>>> in my life...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've known Tom for quite some time and I know his car quite
>>>>>> well too.
>>>>>>>>> The front windscreen is lexan, big deal -- lightweight, OMG.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> cooling fans were removed... so his engine was obviously
>>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>>>>> Seriously are any of you mechanics or related to any? Ever
>>>>>> hear of ASE
>>>>>>>>> certification or even mechanical engineering? Yea -- once you
>>>>>> know a
>>>>>>>>> little bit about cars and these pretty little temperature
>>>>>> guages
>>>>>>>>> you'll understand that he never destroyed his motor. I've
>>>>>> ridden
>>>>>>>>> several hundred miles in this car and it never overheated
>>>>>> once; in
>>>>>>>>> heavy traffic it would start to get warm but as soon as
>>>>>> movement
>>>>>>>>> resumed all was well and temps returned to normal. BTW, the
>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>>> windows are glass, he stated the 'tollbooth' windows were
>>>>>> removed as
>>>>>>>>> well as the motors/brackets, however the main glass was still
>>>>>> intact.
>>>>>>>>> The fact that someone who has never seen the vehicle outside
>>>>>> of a few
>>>>>>>>> digital images can claim that he took plastic and painted it
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>> felt-tip pen is ludicris and makes me laugh that you SHEOPLE
>>>>>> would buy
>>>>>>>>> into such claims.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks are subjective, however I assume that under the commie
>>>>>>>>> principles you all live under free will and opinions arent
>>>>>> allowed.
>>>>>>>>> None of you purist assholes liked his cars paintjob or what
>>>>>> else he
>>>>>>>>> had done to differentiate himself from the pack and therefore
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> abused and attacked him relentlously for months and then
>>>>>> sabotaged his
>>>>>>>>> auction which was legitimate. If any of you lived under some
>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>>> common sense; why wouldnt the fact it said OTHER instead of
>>>>>> CLEAN lend
>>>>>>>>> the idea that it wasnt a standard title and if you had any real
>>>>>>>>> consern, maybe you should ASK!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to buy his Delorean at one point but I already have
>>>>>> plenty of
>>>>>>>>>  toys under my belt right now so I couldnt afford the time to
>>>>>> care for
>>>>>>>>> another. However, his car was quite unique and while you may
>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>>>> it rice, his car recieved more attention then ANY of my
>>>>>>>>> previous/current possibly future cars would ever recieve.
>>>>>> People that
>>>>>>>>> didnt like Deloreans even liked his, so I guess other people
>>>>>> just have
>>>>>>>>> differant opinions in the free world... welcome to all things
>>>>>>>>> subjective.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, and one last thing... would you archaic commie freaks join
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> 21st century and get a real forum instead of this nasty reject
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> system? Seriously, it isnt very hard to implement PHPBB or
>>>>>> VbBB, PHPBB
>>>>>>>>> is free and takes only a couple of hours to setup from start to
>>>>>>>>> finish. As a network engineer myself I cant help but laugh at
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> 'advanced race' of vehicle owners that are so high and mighty
>>>>>> and yet
>>>>>>>>> they can not pull themselves away from the most basic and crude
>>>>>>>>> systems of communication in light of much more functional and
>>>>>>>>> effeciant options.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck to you all in the many lives you ruin in your little
>>>>>> worlds
>>>>>>>>> of self-hatred and loathing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien"
>>>>>> <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I see you finally broke down and installed the fans
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> owners, "free of charge".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why the hell didn't you just do that BEFORE the auction
>>>>>> started? It
>>>>>>>>>> would have saved you tons of greif trying to defend this
>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>>> shit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one wanted it in the rice mode you had it in, and I
>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>> they'll feel any performance loss with the added weight of
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> fans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I only feel sorry for the poor bastard beachdrifterusa who
>>>>>> bought
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> junker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh well, buyer beware. And now that the piece of shit has
>>>>>> sold,
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>> riddens to Thomas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please, someone revoke his membership, Claude was better to
>>>>>> talk to
>>>>>>>>>> than Thomas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "thomaspaulmccoy"
>>>>>>>>>> <thomaspaulmccoy@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The seller claims that the car features "tinted glass".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All Deloreans come standard with tinted glass. Please
>>>>>> refer to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> factory window sticker:  http://www.entermywor
>>>>>>>>> ld.com/myd/wspage.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but the work to restore it is going to be a huge task.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about restoration?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> windows in the photos were drawn with a magic marker.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ludicrous. Do I need to make a video of me passing my hand
>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> window opening?
>>>>>
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