Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

That Eurofest video Tamir is selling is his. He made it while HE was 
there.

Mark V



On May 23, 2005, at 10:56 AM, therealdmcvegas wrote:

> So, because VideoBob does these things for profit, that faults him
> over Tamir?
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> Firstly, Tamir does sell products on his site as well. And like the
> antennas & LEDs that people complain about, I don't see a 500 minute
> phone card for $31 dollars being a good value either. And don't
> forget that just like how VB has a video of Pigeon Forge, so does
> Tamir sell one of a Eurofest meet. So the "profit" aspect is a moot
> point. DVD-R vs. VHS tape doesn't change a thing. Just because VB's
> distribution media is an easier/quicker format to copy things to,
> doesn't make VB a *bad* person. Especially when both do technicly
> sell videos, and other for-profit items on their website. Individual
> perceptions of what someone may consider to be "over priced" for both
> unrelated items, and videos has nothing to do with the videos in
> question.
>
> The difference between Video Bob, and Tamir is their distribution
> means. Neither of them own the rights to these videos in question.
> Just as you can say that VB is selling DVDs containing material that
> he does not own, so could you argue that Tamir is using that same
> material for profit on his website. Except for instead of selling
> DVDs that directly contain it, he is using these free clips to
> attract people to his website, in an effort to drive sales of
> products in his online store.
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> Otherwise, I don't see what VideoBob is doing wrong with these
> videos. You pay a bit more, and end up getting full clips, available
> for viewing on a full TV screen, instead of a RealPlayer window. So
> to me, the price he's asking for these videos is worth it. But more
> importantly, it's just that you'd be paying VB to do the footwork in
> preparing everything for a DVD, that you can keep. So that's worth it
> to me. I don't see a difference in what they're doing at all. Just
> because you don't charge for something, doesn't mean that circumvents
> the nessesity of gaining the proper owner's permission for said
> material.
>
> -Robert
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> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
>> VB does it for profit.  I don't see how Tamir is
>> making money off of his site.  He does not even sell
>> advertising space!
>>
>> So, in comparing Tamir to Bob we can say BOTH made a
>> significant effort in collecting this footage,
>> digitizing it, and editing it...  Where they diverge
>> is how they choose to distribute the material.
>>
>> Tamir spends his own money (I assume) to host this
>> material on the Internet.  Large downloads = high
>> bandwidth = more expensive hosting fees.  Yet, he does
>> not charge anyone anything.
>>
>> Bob buys some blank DVD-R's, copies the video, and
>> puts it in the mail.  A process that costs about $2.
>> He is making a $8 per disk profit. (I am only talking
>> about his disk that contain footage that he does not
>> own)
>>
>> Yes, I know about the time to blah blah blah.. But for
>> means of comparing Bob to Tamir, those things are
>> pretty much equal.
>>
>> When you look at the DVD sales, along with VB's other
>> items (over priced items like Antennas, LED's, Radio
>> Harness), it sets a tone for the way the guy does
>> business.  IMHO, the profit he demands for doing
>> minimal research in to sourcing parts is highway
>> robbery.  It is not like the guy has a R&D facility
>> where he is inventing a new and better LED.
>>
>> And, NO.. My motivation has nothing to do with
>> religion or Bob's views on social issues, because many
>> times I agree with him even though I find his
>> presentation of those opinions are somewhat insulting.
>>
>> ... Again, I am not finding fault with Bob the man..
>> Just some of the things he does.
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