[DMCForum] Re: What's up with Death?

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

Well, you are right about one thing, Farrar. I shouldn't have jumped
into the conversation. From what I could tell, you seemed to be
singling Josh out, to try and make fun of him. Such as the comments
that he was reminding you why you should never have kids, etc.

I have plenty of empathy for others (I'm just selective about how I
distribute it). In fact, your comments were what pissed me off, and
made me want to jump into the conversation to defend him. I remember
what it was like to join the DML, and take allot of shit from people
who thought that I was too young to own a DeLorean. So that triggered
that angry reaction out of me.

But you are right, it was not my place to jump into the conversation.
After all, if someone is going to pick on another person here, then
that person needs to learn to defend themselves, and fight their own
battles.

As for me only caring about anyone but myself, believe what you want.
But thank me for >NOT< sending you a condolence. I have had close
family members die, and all within a short time period as well. And I
know what it was like for me. But I honestly have no clue what these
losses are like for you, nor what they mean to you. I don't know what
you're going thru, because while grief is involved, the experience is
different for all of us. Perhaps you feel like you've lost a part of
yourself, because you'll never see that close person again. Maybe you
feel a sense of relief because a long period of suffering has finally
come to an end for that person you care about. Maybe you're torn,
because you feel a bit of guilt for some reason. You didn't visit them
enough, or perhaps it was someone that you were related to closely,
but you don't feel as saddened as you *think* you should be. I don't
know what things are like for you, nor will I pretend I do. The
experience is different for us all.

The only thing that I am going to share with you, is that I couldn't
stand it when people I knew were trying to go out of their way to show
empathy twards me, and my situation. Either they tried too hard, and
came off as being insincere. Or worse yet, they tried to fucking
one-up me, by trying to compare their own greif to mine, in an effort
to convince me that they had suffered greater than I have.

Now, if you venting some anger with you helps you to deal with this
situation, then go ahead. And if you want to continue making me a
target of your frustration, then go right ahead. It doesn't bother me
a bit. But, if you are trying to hurt me, if that is indeed your end
goal, then realize that you haven't. And it's not because I'm callous.
I'm just selective about what I let bother me.

Just as I don't show favor to anyone who walks by, I don't despise
just anyone either. If I just loved everyone, what value would that
place on my love? Same with my hatred and anger. Know that I simply
respect your existance.

And if none of this makes sense to you, come back and read it in six
months.

-Robert



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Farrar <dochudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> Singling somebody out and trying to make fun of them?
> 
> What the fuck are you smoking, Robert?
> 
> You're the guy who said that when I grow up I am going
> to be a DRUNK MARRIED MAN HITTING ON TEENAGE BOYS. Or
> does that not qualify as SINGLING SOMEBODY OUT AND
> TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF THEM? Do you remember writing
> THAT ONE? I can find the post for you. Yes, I read it.
> I ignored it because it wasn't worth replying to.
> 
> How EXACTLY should I phrase my questions about
> HISTORY? "Oh, pardon me sir, but do you recall the
> court case in the 1980s where a man murdered four of
> my friend's family? I was wondering if you might be
> related to this sweet girl I am friends with." I
> figured with an Arkansas native on the list I would
> ask a question about Arkansas history, without
> exposing too much information. I guess that is
> singling him out, since he is from Arkansas, but it
> wasn't making fun of him. I was merely curious.
> 
> I can safely assume you don't give a fuck about
> anybody but yourself. So leave me alone. When I ask a
> question of somebody, I expact an answer from HIM not
> an accusation from Left Field. If you noticed, Josh
> answered the question and didn't take it personally,
> so obviously he understood when I ASKED A SIMPLE
> QUESTION.
> 
> Take your own advice and ease up off of ME. I've had a
> rough time recently, not that you have noticed or made
> ONE SINGLE HELPFUL FUCKING COMMENT TOWARDS ME. The
> same day that I found out my uncle scheduled Grandad's
> funeral so that I couldn't make it, you accuse me of
> being a future closeted homosexual. Today, the day OF
> the memorial service eight hundred miles away, I check
> my email and NOW you're accusing me of making fun of
> somebody -- wrongly. Bad timing? I hope. Bad taste?
> Undoubtedly. I have been made fun of all my life. I
> jibe people here because I am friends with them. Do
> you not do that with your friends? One of mine calls
> me motherfucker a lot, but that is because she's my
> friend and I know she loves me. 
> 
> I try to be friendly and jovial on this forum. Most
> people appreciate it. From you, all I get is abuse and
> accusations. Are you THAT shallow? Have you NO
> capacity for empathy with other humans? Have YOU ever
> had a bad day? Made a bad joke? Buried a close family
> member, or four or five?
> 
> Fuck this. And fuck you.
> 
> Farrar
> 
> --- therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > Dammnit Farrar, ease up off Josh.
> > 
> > It's cool and all to have debates here, because in
> > the end, we can all
> > at least agree to disagree. But don't single anyone
> > out to try and
> > make fun of them.
> > 
> > -Robert
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Farrar
> > <dochudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Spring brings death. 
> > > 
> > > --- Josh Porter <joshp1986@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > very close to what I 
> > > > hear of 1980. something like 3/4 of one
> > generation
> > > > of my family died 
> > > > all in the same year.
> > > 
> > > Was that that Simmons dude that Gov. Clinton
> > signed
> > > the execution papers for in record time and all
> > that?
> > > 
> > > Farrar
> > > 
> > > I always thank the dinosaurs for a plentiful
> > supply of 10W30.
> > > 
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