[DMCForum] Re: Continuing misadventures of a Volvo/B280F PRV

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

I like the PRV. I think it's a damn fine engine. However, I think that
it has the worst luck in getting put into vehicles that put it into a
bad light. Volvos and Eagle Premiers are ALWAYS ending up on junky car
lots, where they get sold to poor people that run these cars into the
ground. And with DeLoreans, they always get parked, and then started
up before their cooling and fuel systems are properly repaired. Hence
in both cases, they sufffer premature death.

I like the PRV. However, we don't have the kind of resources here in
the U.S. that make it a proper engine to hotrod, let alone properly
maintain. DeLorean is like the last hold out that still stocks parts
for these engines. Modern Volvo dealerships don't stock anything for
them on hand, and their shop mechanics do not have the proper working
knowlege for these motors, let alone the K-Jetronic fuel injection
systems. In many cases, you'll find out that you are your own best
mechanic when it comes to these engines. And save for tuning and
adjusting the fuel mixture, I've never needed another mechanic to work
on my engine. But with the lack of available performance parts, it's
damn-near futile to rebuild these engines. All you'll get is working
order, and no performance.

It's not that I have animosity against the PRV. I'm walking away from
it with a positive opinion. It's just not what I want any longer. So
why put the time, effort, and money into trying to restore it.
Especially on a motor that is now a quarter century old, and NEEDS a
complete tear down and rebuild. And besides, the DeLorean is too damn
comfortable for me to want to give up. But as for the B280F, nah. I
know that their reliable, but that isn't the primary concern.
Especially with a classic car! :) Plain and simple, I just want a
ground-pounder DeLorean to smack a few other egos upside their heads...

760's ain't bad looking cars. Myself, I prefer the 2-door, chopped-top
Bertone coupes that Volvo produced. Especially the modern looking 780
Bertone. If you're looking for an engine swap in that one, there are a
few options available, as you can see here:
http://www.converseengineering.com/
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/309927

The DeLorean is most likely at this point going to be swapped out for
a 3-Rotor engine. With the exception of the Rover, most V8 engines are
way too heavy to put into the DeLorean. I don't care for the idea of
throwing off the balance of my car any more. And while the Rover is a
great Choice, I'd still be in the same boat of parts and performance
availability. Yeah, they can be reworked and massaged, but the
components are damned expensive, and rare, as they no longer build
this engine. And Chevy is out of the question for me. So, that leaves
the Rotary.

As for the Volvo, I've never done a swap, and I've only rode in one a
couple of times. But personally, restoring an older Volvo, and doing a
motor swap is still cheaper than buying a new luxury car. And it's
nicer too. Late model European cars have far superior coachbuilt
interiors that are crafted, rather than the snap-tite model interiors
that are cranked out now worldwide.

-Robert



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cartermartin" <cartermartin@xxxx> wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> Yeah we shared the same 'pleasures' with those O-Rings. I appreciated 
> the tips you gave me a few weeks ago.
> 
> I think I am heading down the same path you are. I've garaged the 760 
> until I can dig into this thing (as if i have not been dug in so 
> far). I don't want to risk warping the heads (if they are not warped 
> already). I was driving my '71 145 'rusty green'. I'm having to look 
> for a better 'beater' since i'm going to be driving it for  a few 
> months. So far the 'short list' includes a Volvo 245 station wagon 
> and a '90 miata. 
> 
> Have you considered finding a B280F for the swap? Up until  march 
> it's been solid as a rock. 252k miles and runs like new. Seems like 
> they fixed a lot of things in that edition. Cept the 'O-Rings'.
> 
> As usual thanks for the tips sorry we seem to be in the same boat.
> 
> Carter

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