[DMCForum] DMCH Addresses SonnyV

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Stephen,

First, I have to ask why your message was edited by
the DML moderators;

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X-eGroups-Approved-By: daveswingle2 <swingle@xxxx> via
web; 26 Jan 2005 03:12:48 -0000

See Below

--- In dmcnews, "swynnedmc" wrote:

<SNIP>

> we also had a great concern that to unleash a flurry
> of posts to the DML from the staff here would be
perceived as a threat
> to the DML, which had been founded on the idea that
it would be free
> of any direct or indirect ties to any particular
"vendor".

There are a number of vendors offering free advice on
the Internet.  No one (seems) has had any issue with
the way they conduct themselves, why would you not
model an effort by DMCH on an approach that is already
working?  Messages from vendors would typically be
given more credit by the readers of the list.

I have been critical of vendors using the DML for
advertisement, but I doubt anyone would have a problem
offering technical assistance and including a link to
items needed to complete the job on your web site....
as other vendors already do.
 
> The idea was floated that we create a profile of a
typical DMC
> customer, and use this profile to post answers and
stimulate
> conversation regarding various products and service
being offered in
> the DeLorean community. With my consent, and the
rule that no
> particular company or it's products would be singled
out for criticism
> or berated, "SonnyV" came into being.  This
coincided with a period of
> stronger than anticipated growth at DMC (Texas) and
the idea was never
> fully implemented, though over 18 months, about
15-20 messages were
> sent to the DML from the "SonnyV" profile.

Have you read the posts Stephen?  Clearly, your rules
were broken and little technical advice or corrections
were offered by SonnyV.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/47781

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July 24, 2003; A plug for the DMCH reprint of SSI.

August 05, 2003; asking if anyone used the rear
defroster as an antenna.

August 13, 2003; putting in to question the shock kit
sold by another vendor. 

August 20, 2003; buy parts from DMCH, not Autozone.

September 04, 2003; Use official DeLorean stainless
cleaner. (I bet there is a stockpile in Texas)

October 15, 2003; DMCH lowing the price of door struts
(will they still break the mounts?).. and a random
bash of DeLorean One.

December 01, 2003; Saying Ken offended him, because
SonnyV's father is a big guy.

January 07, 2004; Putting in to question the
refurbished fascias sold by another vendor.

January 12, 2004; FIRST (somewhat) TECHNICAL POST! Now
we know who made the DMC wheels. <sarcasm> I am glad
that misinformation was corrected </sarcasm>

February 22, 2004; Advertisement for DMCH angle drive.

March 07, 2004; Random discussion about how wonderful
DMCH is.

March 08, 2004; Personal jab at me.

March 11, 2004; Second technical post, explaining
release bearings.

March 11, 2004; another jab at me.

March 29, 2004; another angle drive advertisement.

November 19, 2004; an advertisement to buy refurbished
DeLoreans at DMCH.

November 19, 2004; A post to try and cover up that the
previous post was signed by James.
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Can you explain how any of these posts addressed the
"misinformation and bad or outdated technical
advice"?

Even more interesting is, if the intention here was to
use SonnyV to clear up misinformation on the list, why
would such important posts be deleted from the
archives?  When an effort is made to cover something
up, the motivations are believed to be negative
(Malicious? Deceptive?).

> News of this became public in late November, while
both James and I
> were out of the country and unable to reliably
access and respond to
> emails. Upon our return the second week of December,
things had "died
> down" on the DML and it seemed that this had blown
over and to post a
> response would have only incited another round of
messages on the subject.

They had "died down" because the moderators squelched
the subject.  Again, bringing it to question the
relationship between DMCH and the DML moderators.  My
initial post on the matter was held for a week!  Do
the moderators make it a habit of verifying the
content of every post?

Also interesting that my post earlier this week about
(what I believe to be another unethical item) how the
DMCH web site included META tags of "delorean one, pj
grady, p.j. Grady, delorean motor center" was somehow
lost..  It never made it to the list, and I never got
a rejection.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/message/22670
 
<SNIP>

> The intent was not to deceive, though it now appears
that deception
> was the end result. DMC (Texas) and James Espey have
great respect for
> the owners of DeLoreans, whether or not they are
clients of ours, and
> extends apologies to those who were offended. An
additional apology is
> extended to the moderators who bore the brunt of the
animosity
> generated in the aftermath of this incident.

If this was the only deception, I could believe it.
Example, The name "DeLorean Motor Company" alone is a
deception.  It has been successful in fooling many
people in to thinking that your company is the
"official" DeLorean vendor,  because it somehow
descended from the company that built our cars. 
Clearly, this is NOT true but there is no doubt (to
me) that this confusion is by design.

<SNIP>

> DMC (Texas) and it's staff will continue to act in
the best interests
> of the DeLorean community by continuing to service
the needs of the
> owners and enthusiasts through the sale of both
reproduction and NOS
> parts, accessories as well as sale, service and
restoration of
> DeLorean automobiles for owners all around the
world.

A business exists to make a profit, with that I truly
do hope you consider PAST and future actions are "in
the best interests of the DeLorean community", and not
just your own.
 
> Stephen Wynne
> DeLorean Motor Company, Texas

Marc Levy

"Society honors its living conformist and its dead
trouble makers." ~ Mignon McLaughlin



            
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