[DMCForum] Re: God, again! and Walt's madness

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

Talk about being off topic!!!
You should write a book... you have so many stories...
I don't have any experiences with spirits to share, I don't have x-
ray vision either, but i can see very well, 20/20 :)
Interesting comment about dreams, I read about dreams before and 
apparantly we dream for most of the time we are sleeping but we only 
remember a little bit of it, if anything. I did dream about the same 
things over and over again and I see them as reminiscence of the day 
and things that are going on with your life, I don't see dreams as a 
way to predict the future as some people do.
And I am able to kind of control my dreams sometimes, when it's 
a "story" that I am enjoying and I wake up, I can sleep again 
and "watch" the next part. Funny, huh?
That's all I have :)
Flavia
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxx> wrote:
> My recent mentions about God & ghosts has someone e-mailing me 
directly to clarify.  So I figure since I am believed to be a lunatic 
anyway, I will post my reply publicly.  Maybe it would be useful to 
some.  Maybe others like me can share their experiences:
> 
> It isn't as dramatic as I make it sound.  I have seen various 
evidence of things that I just cant otherwise explain.  Just before I 
wrote that, I had returned to my mom's condo after being away for 
several hours.  My mom had not been home the whole time either.  When 
I walked in the dining room, a purse she had near the edge of the 
table fell to the floor.  I know the purse had been there undisturbed 
for probably over a day.  Why would it fall off when I walk into the 
room?  This condo has a concrete slab floor covered by carpet.  There 
was no wind to speak of.  Maybe it would have fallen anyway.  But I 
see things do this too often.
> 
> In this orthodox church that I am into, it is common knowledge that 
demons attack ascetic monks in various ways.  For people like Marc, 
the strategy for the demons is to never be obvious.  But when you are 
already convinced of the situation and mechanisms at work, demons are 
not so worried about being obvious in what they do.  If I pray 
meditatively and fix my thought on just the Jesus prayer, for 
example, I become more aware of things that distract me from it.  One 
fine example was seeing something like a bird fly over the top of my 
head.  (I had my eyes closed.)  I could see it come from a distance 
flying over me in a straight path without changing speed.  As it 
passed, it left an obviously evil but foreign thought.  I immediately 
recognized it as a typical demon running about dropping bad thoughts 
into people's heads.  It did not care enough to see the results of 
what it was doing.  It was more preoccupied with just liberally 
spreading filth.  The more dedicated people get into prayerful 
meditation, the more aware of these things God allows you to become.  
Sure, it is hard to be taken seriously talking about such things.  
But then I tend to be a practical person.  If I see a better way then 
I am generally not afraid to follow it.  For example, I know going 
barefoot is generally better than wearing shoes in most cases.  So I 
do it.  Many people get upset by it, but so what?  Likewise I know 
that a life dedicated first to serving God is best, so I am not 
afraid to follow it.  If blatantly admitting supernatural occurrences 
makes me look like a lunatic, then so be it.  Eventually all of this 
earthly life and world as we know it will be finished and replaced 
with something much nicer -- at least for some of us.  I anxiously 
await.
> 
> A big problem with God giving the powers to see things otherwise 
invisible is that it tends to make one prideful and others jealous.  
Generally clairvoyant monks do not admit to these gifts that God 
gives them.  I have heard cases of people born being able to clearly 
see spirits.  As for me, I am basically blind to most of the 
invisible things.  I was born with enough ability to become very 
scared of being left alone.  For whatever reason, when I was around 2 
years old, I regularly had the sheets pulled from my bed and tossed 
onto the floor.  As far as I could tell, I was fully awake waiting 
for this to happen on some nights.  I could see vague human-like 
shapes come around my bed and pull my covers off.  I would scream.  
My mom would come in the room, put the sheets back on my bed and say 
that I did this myself because I did not want to be left alone.  
> 
> So in this sense I have always been aware to a slight degree of 
being able to see spirits.  I first scientifically proved this to 
myself doing darkroom work in boarding school.  As I loaded film into 
the developing tank, I could see my hands even tho the room was 
totally devoid of visible light.  I discussed it with some people and 
came up with some hypothesis.  The main one was that my mind knew 
where my hands were and tried to make a mental image of it.  A 
curious thing was that it didn't matter whether my eyes were open or 
closed.  I could see my hands move anyway.  With experimentation, I 
could localize where this so-called eye is.  It is in front of my 
pituitary gland.  I can wave my hand in front of it and see my hand 
this way with my eyes closed while in total darkness.  I can point 
with the tip of my finger and blot it out.  And it is not just my 
hand I see this way but other things as well.  This shows me that it 
is not just my mind creating images trying to show me where my hands 
are.
> 
> I have since done a lot more experimentation and talked with other 
people who claim to have the same abilities.  This brought about a 
bit of confusion for me, because I realized that I could see in total 
darkness better with my eyes open even tho I knew I was seeing thru 
this 'third eye'.  I have since discovered that there are two 
separate mechanisms of this psychic vision.  The obvious being 
the 'third eye' and the other is the retina being able to see other 
forms of light that are invisible to most people.  The 'third eye' is 
more sensitive to bio-energy -- like being able to see my hand.  And 
the other thru the physical eyes -- seeing reflected 'light'.  This 
light comes from the sun but also from bio-sources.  It passes thru 
things to a great degree like x-rays, but it also reflects off of 
things which gives the observer a sort of x-ray vision.
> 
> An amazing proof of this phenomenon was doing more darkroom work a 
few years ago.  I converted a bathroom to a darkroom to do more film 
developing.  I was amazed at how much I could see in the room without 
any visible light present.  Granted, I could see more with my 
physical eyes open than with them shut.  And as I mentioned before, I 
figured out that it was actually two separate mechanisms of psychic 
vision at work and overlapping.  One being the third eye/pituitary 
gland.  The other being in the retina.  I practiced spinning around 
purposely loosing my orientation in the dark room.  I repeatedly 
picked out a towel rack on the wall and would put my finger on a 
certain corner of it.  I did this many times without error.  I never 
missed putting my finger on the exact spot.  Also I noticed that I 
could see the studs behind the drywall.  A curious anomaly was seeing 
a very thick solid area hidden inside a wall.  I didn't understand 
why it would be there.  So later when I was working in the attic, I 
went above the place and saw that it was a structural thing holding 
up the roof trusses.  Note that if there were any visible light in 
this room that it would have fogged my film.  The film developed 
perfectly.  If this vision is truly x-ray then why do my eyelids 
block much of it yet it penetrates walls?  I think God designed our 
eyelids to be able to block it to give us rest from such 
distractions.  Also perhaps the eyelids are themselves a source of 
psychic light that blurs & outshines most external sources passing 
thru.
> 
> People ask what these things look like -- the color & such.  Well, 
it is not so much as describing color to a blind person.  Generally 
both methods of psychic vision are seen as colors ranging from blue 
to purple to pink.  Curiously, any visible color can be described by 
any three equidistant points on a color wheel.  A color wheel is made 
by taking the visible spectrum and putting the opposite ends 
together -- connecting red to purple or infra-red to ultraviolet.  
Most of the psychically visible light seems to be somewhere in the 
otherwise invisible portion above UV but below X-ray.  It would be 
interesting, but obviously dangerous to produce this light 
artificially and see what happens.  I know there is a difference 
between microwaves versus visible light of the same wavelengths, and 
I think this difference is relevant to psychic vision.  Radio waves 
cannot mimic visible light, and visible light cannot mimic radio 
waves; yet they are the same frequency.  This is an obstacle to 
research that some scientists cant see past.
> 
> I ask people what they see when they are in total darkness.  
Generally they say they see only black.  For me the darkness is 
alive.  Generally I would describe it as a vibrating tray of sand.  
Everything appears very grainy like a bad photograph.  The sand is a 
dark blue.  When anything moves, such as my hand before my face or a 
person in front of me, it appears as tho my hand is buried beneath 
the sand.  When it moves, I see a corresponding disturbance in the 
sand.  When my hand stops, the sand quickly stabilizes covering my 
hand making it mostly invisible again.  Since these two methods of 
vision seem to overlap, it is difficult to discern one from the 
other.  As I became more aware, I could tell that they did not 
exactly overlap -- like not having my eyes pointing exactly in the 
same direction and seeing double.  But with practice, it all comes 
into focus.  
> 
> A recent thing I will mention at the risk of being prideful about 
it, on two occasions so far I awoke doing the Jesus prayer.  As my 
thumb was counting the knots on my prayer rope, I could clearly see 
my hand in detail even tho my eyes were closed and my pillow was in 
the way.  I was actually seeing thru my pillow.  The image was gray-
scale and the vision was perfectly clear.  I studied it for a moment 
and was so amazed that the excitement broke me out of my prayerful 
mindset, so it stopped.  I understand that such gifts are only given 
to those who pray perfectly.  Apparently I was praying perfectly 
enough that God saw fit to fully enable the vision thru my third 
eye.  Now I have a very good picture of what clairvoyant monks claim 
to see.  I have been inspired to make a video camera that would 
capture these images for people who are not sensitive enough to see 
such unaided.  I have an electronics background and some knowledge of 
mycology.  I think I could make an electronic film plate containing 
very tiny capsules of fungi that are sensitive to this energy.  I 
have some good ideas on how to go about making such a thing, but I do 
not have a reputation for getting things done.  Hence, I sit here and 
type when I have way more important business to take care of.  
Perhaps a more practical goal is to become a monk and learn to pray 
perfectly without ceasing.
> 
> One more interesting vision anomaly that I have demonstrated on 
many occasions is that when I am dreaming, I will purposefully 
control my dream.  I will dream of a bright light, such as a sunset, 
glare on a car bumper, etc.  Then I will immediately wake myself up 
and look about.  As I blink my eyes, I will see an 'after burn' or 
retinal persistence of this image as tho I had seen it thru my 
physical eyes.  But this obviously is not retinal fatigue.  It 
happens somewhere, most likely, in the visual cortex.  Has anyone 
experienced any of this stuff and care to share?
> 
> Walt
> 
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