Re: [DMCForum] Re: 24valve 3.0 PRV

[Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi John

First things first, check that it definitely IS a PRV. The most obvious 
thing being it's 90 degree and not 60. Then you'll need to check the 
flywheel - you may find it's the same anyway - it needs to have a 60-3 
pattern. THEN you need to find a bellhousing off a Renault 25. This is 
dentical to the DeLorean/R30 one but has the port for the sensor. Don't 
expect to find one in a scrapyard as the R25 has a UN1 box which are 
very popular and are almost always stripped. It's a lot of hoops to jump 
through and suddenly the job starts to look harder!

Martin

John Dore wrote:

>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Sounds good, thanks!
>
> Not worried about the AC compressor for a while, it doesn't work
> anyway. Irish air conditioning works just fine (put the window
> down) :) I'll get it fixed someday, but for now its not a priority.
>
> Approx how much for the R25 flywheeel? I'm defintely interested, and
> thanks for the info.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxx> wrote:
> > Hi John
> >
> > The flywheel off a 25 turbo should be good. in fact, I have a spare
> one....
> >
> > Check the flywheel on the Citroen has a 60-3 tooth pattern. I don't
> know
> > what ECU will beon the Cit but would assume it _is_ the Renix one,
> which
> > uses the strange 60-3 pattern. If it is, then te 25 turbo flywheel
> has
> > the corrct trigger and the correct teeth for the DeLo starter
> >
> > And to anwer your question: yes, you'll need to change the crank
> case
> > and sump over, plus the spacers on the oil pickup. You're also
> going to
> > run into problems of driving the AC compressor.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > John Dore wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Chris and others,
> > >
> > > Welcome to the DMCForum Chris!
> > >
> > > I have found a Citroen XM V6 3.0 24v already in Ireland, just this
> > > morning, in a junk yard. I can get the whole car for about $500 I
> > > think, or just the engine and ecu for about $250. I would prefer
> to
> > > get the whole car I think so that I could get the engine running
> well
> > > while still bolted to the original car, before beginning the
> swap. It
> > > has sat for the past 18 months without being started, so I might
> have
> > > some work to do on it. Maybe they will take less money for the
> car if
> > > I let them keep stuff like the doors, windows, interior, etc, and
> I
> > > could trailer the shell of the car with engine intact away. :)
> > >
> > > Anyway, the only other problem I can see with this one is that it
> is
> > > an automatic transmission, and I might run into problems with the
> > > sensor for the ignition trigger as Steve of project delorean did.
> > > Would I be better off waiting until I find a similar engine
> attached
> > > to a manual transmission?
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that any engine mounting issues will be solved by
> swapping
> > > the lower DeLorean crank case to the new engine, hopefully it will
> > > bolt straight on to it, does anyone know for sure?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Christophe Vieira" <88mph@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new on this list so a little presentation : my name is
> > > > Christophe, I'm 32 years old and I work as analyst programmer, I
> > > > live in France and I am the proud owner of VIN#04271.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, replace the DeLorean engine with a 24v PRV is a good
> idea, I
> > > > plan myself to make this swap with some improvements. These
> engines
> > > > are common here but this kind of engine was usually mounted on
> > > > touring cars so they usualy have a high mileage. These are still
> > > > available as new.
> > > >
> > > > Some little problems :
> > > > 1) The 24v PRV is installed crosswise instead of lengthwise.
> > > > 2) The engine mount is different (suspended), must keep the
> > > original
> > > > one.
> > > > 2) The gearbox is almost on the side of the engine, not like the
> > > > DeLorean.
> > > >
> > > > But the swap is possible, not inexpensive but possible...
> > > >
> > > > Not all Peugeot 605 or Citroën XM have the 24v engine, only
> models
> > > > from 1990 to 1997 for both. Before, they have 12v and after the
> > > > engine is at 60°, not 90°.
> > > >
> > > > Best very regards from France,
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi lads,
> > > > > I'm planning on putting a more modern PRV engine in my car,
> the
> > > > > engine from a Peugeot 605, which is a 200bhp EFI 24valve 3.0
> PRV.
> > > > > After putting a free flow exhaust on it, it should reach
> > > hopefully
> > > > > 210 to 215 bhp. What do you think?!
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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