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> I pointed out Kerry's flip flopping then you equate Bush to Kerry
as
> if to suggest that Bush is also a flip flopper.  If you simply say
> now that your point was only that Bush had no principles,....okay,
I
> can take that on as well.

I think you have confused with another post.  I never said anything
about Kerry.


> So Bush didn't talk about war with Iraq during his campaign so
> therefore he is a liar???  And 9/11 didn't have anything to do
with
> unexpected changes in foreign policy?!?!  And nothing in the way
of
> American events could reasonably alter foreign policy???? 

Bush was planning to invade Iraq from day 1.  9/11 had nothing to do
with us going into Iraq.
Read Paul Oneill's book.  Long before 9/11 Bush and crew were
planning how they were going
to spin the story.

> This hardly points to any lack of principles.  If this was the
case,
> then Roosevelt had no principles when he declared war on Japan
> during WWII, JFK had no principles when he stared down the Soviets
> during the Cuban missle crisis, Carter had no principles when he
> sent Marines into Iran to rescue hostages and Clinton had no
> principles when he bombed Kosovo, Sudan and Iraq.  None of these
men
> campaigned on such issues.  Are they liars as well????

You comparisons aren't valid.  Bush was planning to Invade Iraq pre-
9/11 and it had nothing to do with events that occured during his
first few months in office.  It was to settle a score, get some oil
and scare the surronding Middle Eastern countries.  It was a plan
cooked up by Karl Rove 10 years earlier.  If Bush Sr. had been re-
elected, Iraq would have been taken long ago.  All it has done is
turn the world against us and make us less secure than ever.

>
> What Bush DID tell people was that he was a strong, competent
leader
> willing to defend the sovereignty of the United States.  Promise
> kept!!!!

He also stated that Clinton/Gore were too lax on foreign policy and
that he was going to strengthen realationsships.  I
guess "strenghten realationships" means "Bomb the sh*t out of them"
in Texas.  Oh ya, he also said that we should treat China as an
enemy and not embrace them as Clinton/Gore did.  I hate to see what
we have in store for them.  Can you say NEW-CLI-ER.  That's okay,
Bush can't either.

And what president wouldn't defend the United States?  Any president
would have attacked Afghanistan after 9/11.   I would argue that
pulling all our troops out of Afghanistan to address Bush's pre 9/11
plan wasn't the best way to protect the U.S. either.  Funny how we
let the guy behind 9/11 get away yet we got the guy he tried to
borrow some kuwati Oil years earlier.  I guess Oil is more important
than people.

It is obvious that you are just a Bush fan boy and that no amount of
discourse will be at all productive here so I'm going to bed.



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