[DMCForum] Eric, Come Out Of The Garage For A Minute (Electorial College)
From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 20:38:24 -0000
Bush only carried the electorial college because of the contested
popular vote in Florida. Had the Florida popular vote been given to
Gore, Gore would have won the electorial college (provided
representatives thereto actually voted as Florida's majority intended.
In North Carolina at least there's an ostensible punishment for
electors who vote in the college contrary to the popular vote --
something like a $25 fine).
OK, back to your car.
Bill Robertson
#5939
>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Eric Itzel <eric@xxxx> wrote:
> This is another neat argusation by the forum. I think I'll join in..
>
> Don't forget that no matter how many disputed figures can be presented
> about the great election blunder of 2000, Bush still won hands down....
> because he received the most electoral votes. Popular vote does not
> matter, it just advises the electoral college on which way they should
> vote. Very much like a republican (political system, not the party)
> government, the electoral college should, but doesn't have to listen to
> the people.
>
> I'm off to my garage to turn some bolts- come get me after November.
>
> Eric
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Flavia <mailto:frvianna@xxxx>
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:15 PM
> Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Bush Lost Florida In 2000
>
> yep, that is the guy that should be in my dreams, only that despite
> my effort, I couldn't dream about him, LOL
> I didn't have all of those details, but you proved my point: who can
> be sure Bush won? Thanks
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ,
> "content22207" < brobertson@c <mailto:brobertson@c> ...>
> wrote:
> > Approximately 10,000 registered Floridian voters (predominantly
> black)
> > were either turned away from polling places or found their polling
> > places moved.
> >
> > Miami-Dade county never manually counted 10,750 ballots that the
> punch
> > card machines couldn't read.
> >
> > Palm Beach County's manual recount was cut short (after numerous
> > delays from its Republican election board members).
> >
> > Republicans corrected invalid absentee ballots AFTER November 7 and
> > Bush sued to have them included in the recount.
> >
> > Let's face it: Bush would have lost Florida if the election and its
> > aftermath had been handled fairly.
> >
> > On September 12, 2001, Gore may have been glad it wasn't.
> >
> > Bill Robertson
> > #5939
> >
> > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Flavia" <frvianna@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the explanation, but I am not convinced yet. I'd only
> be
> > > convinced if it there the votes were counted automatically, r=or
> if I
> > > actually saw the hand counting!
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Katon, Robert"
> <robert.katon@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > The Florida vote was counted three times all showing Bush the
> > > winner.
> > > > And that was just the counting BEFORE they declared Bush the
> winner.
> > > > There was subsequent counting by independent groups that
> confirmed
> > > the
> > > > count.
> > > >
> > > > But like a good liberal, if the counts don't yield a
> satisfactory
> > > > result, simply question the counts! I don't remember anyone
> having
> > > a
> > > > problem with how the Florida ballots were counted in '96. But
> I
> > > suppose
> > > > that is because you had the result that you wanted. I don't
> > > remember
> > > > anyone having a problem with the electoral college in '96, but
> > > again, as
> > > > long as it works for liberals, it ain't broken right???
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Flavia [mailto:frvianna@xxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:01 PM
> > > > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Bush (Vote for handouts/tax breaks)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In florida? during all those days they spend counting and
> > > > recounting?
> > > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Katon, Robert"
> > > > <robert.katon@xxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I saw the vote counts
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Flavia [mailto:frvianna@xxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:53 AM
> > > > > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Bush (Vote for handouts/tax
> > > > breaks)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How can you be so sure?
> > > > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Katon, Robert"
> > > > > <robert.katon@xxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Marc, in case you didn't realize it, Bush won the
> > > > election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Marc Levy [mailto:malevy_nj@xxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:11 AM
> > > > > > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: Bush (Vote for
> > > > handouts/tax
> > > > > breaks)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is that why Gore won the election?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Dave Stragand <dave.stragand@xxxx>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You forgot --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clinton's last year of office, economy
> > > tanks,
> > > > > > > unemployment shoots way up,
> > > > > > > made plans to place blame on incoming
> > > > leader...
> > > > > > > Yes, the economy tanked
> > > > > > > three quarters before the election...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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