RE: [DMCForum] Time for a new political discussion...

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- timnagin <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Why do you believe this?  Everything I have read was
> that they were planning
> the attacks and learning how to fly the planes well
> before Bush was in
> office.  Do you think they were waiting to see who
> was elected before they
> have the go ahead to attack?  

Well, if you believe the Iraq link.. then maybe?? 
After all, Saddam had an axe to grind with Bush.  But
no, I don't think the attack was planed based on who
won the election.

> If Sore Loserman... I
> mean Gore Lieberman...
> were in office I think they would have complained
> and moaned and very little
> would have happened, other than really funny SNL
> skits.  Every time I hear
> Lieberman speak he reminds me of Doug and Wendy
> Whiner from old SNL stuff.

First off, Gore/Leiberman WON..  It has been a well
established fact that even if we IGNORE all of the
shenanigans that took place in Florida, a final
recount of the entire state would have given the votes
to Gore..  The Regan/Bush Sr supreme court appointed
Bush, and Gore was man enough to obey the law of the
land.

I agree, the plans were well under way under Clinton..
 and the Clinton administration was keeping track of
the situation, and has been quoted as saying they had
made attempts to capture/kill Osama that had failed. 
They also passed this information along to the Bush
people, but Bush did nothing. (again, on the record
from the 9/11 hearings)

If Clinton would have made a bigger public stink about
this, he would have been accused of "wag the dog".. 
As you accused him before of launching missiles to
distract the news from his *PERSONAL AND PRIVATE*
activities.  Would the right wing have believed him? 
I don't think you would have.

<SNIP> 
> you are going to blame Bush for this, you need to
> really think about what
> happened, or rather didn't happen, with this
> information when Klinton was in
> office.  Why didn't that administration do anything?


Again Clinton did, and failed.  Obviously Osama is not
an easy man to find, especially if you are not best
friends and receiving money from the rest of his
family.

> I don't mean this last statement to be directed at
> you, but it seems most
> people believe that when stuff like this happens on
> someone's watch then it
> is their fault, when in reality it takes, sometimes,
> many years for the
> effects of anything happening in government to
> trickle down to where it can
> be observed.  There were bad things that happened in
> every administration
> that were the result of the previous.
> 

Are we talking about 9/11 still??   My argument has
always been that Clinton knew something was going on
too..  But at least the Clinton people were paying
attention to it, and trying to do something about it. 
With any big plan, most of the action is right before
the event. If the Bush people were paying attention in
the days leading up to 9/11, maybe they would have
realized what was about to happen?

<SNIP> 
> would have looked like
> a complete ass if they had been standing on the
> rubble by the WTC like Bush
> did, if they would have even tried to do so which I
> doubt.

If we had Gore, we would still have the WTC.



            
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