Need to recognize self efacing humor... Of course I'm happy as a clam in my automotive time warp. Most listers recognize this and don't try to alter the unalterable. Kind of like the crazy grandfather who shows up late every Thanksgiving wearing spats and a straw hat -- just serve him a little turkey and continue conversation on other side. Except I'm 39 with ear rings and spiked hair... Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote: > This is your opinion.. I would guess some of us don't > share it? > > "modern" engines get better fuel economy, more power > per lliter and are much more reliable. If you > understand how the computers work, they are MUCH > eeasierto work on. This of course is all MY opinion. > > It is unfortunate that even the mechanics who work at > the dealerships have no clue as to how to > pproperlydiagnose problems on modern engines, and in > turn many people form nnegativeopinions of the modern > systems.. "if it just had a damn ccarburetor I could > mess with the adjustments to make it run right!"... > *WRONG* > > Example: A ffriendwith a 1999 Cougar has her CE light > on. She brings it in, they pull the codes from the > computer. (P0171 and P0174, for those who care.) The > codes translate to "Lean O2 sensor bank 1" and "Lean > O2 sensor bank 2". So, the moron mmechanicssay "Oh, > you need to replace the O2 sensors!". I would venture > to say that most mechanics would come up with the same > "fix" for these codes... But that is because they > don't think! I told her not to waste the $400+ they > wanted to replace the O2 sensors, and let me look at > the car. Turns out there was a vacuum leak in the > hose that went to the brake booster causing a lean run > condition. > > The computer does not tell you what parts to replace, > only what fault turned the CE light on! A good > mechanic has to still diagnose! > > If we compare this example to a older engine without > all the computer gizmoes, it would just continue to > run lean and have a vacuum leak.... who would even > know until a piston melted due to the long-term lean > run condition. > > > --- content22207 <brobertson@xxxx> wrote: > > I totally do not understand. Why would anyone want a > > "modern" engine. > > Hasn't auto industry been in sad decline for past 25 > > years? > > > > Don't confuse mere forward progression of time with > > actual progress... > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170512 6215:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autore dir?camp=556&lineid=3614674?=egroupweb&pos=HM> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupm ail/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=699084759> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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