Well it's nice to know I'm preaching to the choir. next time you're this side of the pond, take the taime to sample some of the more interesting cars :-) I'm learning more and more on these engines on a daily basis, and my friend owns the only island twin turbo in the country. I've done a lot of investigation and believe we can get it up to 200hp reliably, but it doesn't alter the fact that the thing was never designed for turbos, and no "kit" can be fitted and expected to work in a pure engineering sense. Why else is the R25 turbo such a different engne? It's still a PRV! I think the Honda Civic type R now holds the record for the highest power/displacement figure in a normally aspriated engine. From memory it's around the 180bhp mark from a 2 litre engine. Martin Louie Golden wrote: >If I remember right the 4.6 liters put out around 260 hp in their blandest stock form. There was a *HUGE* opposition to them when they came out from the diehard Mustang and Ford people over here. I think the latest Cobra Mustang 4.6 is putting out 395 supercharged hp. > >The US market is just totally backwards of any other in the world... you got that one right, Martin. The general US population wants a large smooth car with as large as possible of an engine. Low end power is what's hot over here. A testament to that is the fact that Sport Utility Vehicles seem to be totally replacing cars over here, and the SUVs seem to get bigger and bigger and bigger with every passing year. Yet performance cars like the Plymouth Prowler died within a few short years of small batch production. Why didn't this car go over well? Because it had only six cylinders. Yeah, it was more powerful than many 8 cylinder cars around here, but the public just won't buy it. The same thing could be said about why the DeLorean tanked so bad over here. Fuel economy just doesn't matter to most Americans. And why should it? You can buy a gallon of gas for less than you can buy a gallon of milk or water! > >Regarding turbos, the US market is scared of them. They've got a bad rep. Fears of extra maintanence and turbo lag have kept americans away from them. You don't even have to look outside the DeLorean community to see this. I've heard the PJ Grady's won't work on turbo cars anymore (this may not be true). And when DMC-H set out to warm up the DeLorean PRV, their goal was to stay away from turbos. If you talk to the guys over here who swapped out their PRV for small block Ford and Chevy v8's and v6's, you'll find one of their main reasons for doing so is to have a simplified engine that they're familiar with. I'm not saying that I agree with any of this at all... I'm just presenting the popular american viewpoint on the subject... however out of date it may be to the rest of the world. -Louie > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=259538.3793308.5048975.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170512 6215:HM/A=1712983/R=0/SIG=11u38u3s2/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/hit?pa ge=1374-105951838331032> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=259538.3793308.5048975.1261774/D=egroupm ail/S=:HM/A=1712983/rand=573176875> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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