RE: [DMCForum] sad De Lorean on Ebay...
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RE: [DMCForum] sad De Lorean on Ebay...



Ok, I hate gossip and office politics but I will tell some of what
happened
since I have been asked on and off list.  It's a long story so I will try
to
be brief.

I hope the background information is at least true, based on recent events
I
am not even sure about that.  This guy purchased three De Loreans from an
estate sale.  The guy who owned all three of them had passed away and his
family wanted to get rid of them as a lot.  The first two, one was the
automatic that sold on Ebay, had a few problems and the seller wanted to
make everything right because he didn't feel comfortable about selling a
car
with problems.  He is a used car salesmen. The red flag should have gone
up
here.

This first car sold on Ebay at the buy-it-now price of $14k, I believe,
and
much higher than he expected.  The second car, a five-speed, would run but
wouldn't move under its own power.  On both of these cars I tried to help
as
much as I could, also posting some questions here, and other people behind
the scenes on the DMCForum were contributing as well.  I will let those
people speak up if they wish.

Through all of my personal efforts he kept telling me it was a blessing I
had come along and he promised over and over he would make it up to me.
Yesterday I found out he had told other people the same thing.

The third car, the one on Ebay, was undergoing a restoration to be a
painted
car.  When it came time to sell the parts car he said he would offer it to
me first, and give me first refusal rights.  Yesterday, again, I found out
he told at least one other person this same thing.  I said I wanted it,
but
since it was the weekend I needed until the first of the week to get the
money to him.  He went ahead and put it on Ebay, "just to see what
happens"
and he put the right to pull the auction at anytime for my benefit.  All I
had to do was tell him I wanted the car and he would end the auction.

Then he stated a sudden expense came up and he had to get as much for the
car as possible and would leave it on Ebay.  If it didn't sell then he
would
offer it to me.  Before this sudden expense came up, he would have gladly
accepted $1,000.00 for the car to, again, make it up to me.  I told him I
was done and I no longer wanted the car and washed my hands of it.  The
whole situation really left a bad taste in my mouth.  Keep in mind, we
were
helping him out for about a month already I think.

He also said the body panels have no holes in them. Well, ok, maybe no
"holes" but the left front fender has been sliced up and tack-welded back
together.  Technically correct, no holes, but I believe this was
misleading.
The only body panel even remotely close to being perfect is the hood.  I
am
all for restoration, but I believe this is only a parts car.  To restore
it
you would be starting with just a pontoon, and even it has some damage.
The
frame looks pretty rough too.  Remember the red De Lorean I am buying?
The
red one is light-years better in condition.

The engine, missing the injectors at the very least, and turbo have sat
exposed to the weather for no telling how long.

If anyone is interested ask him for pictures.  I have quite a few of the
car
as in the auction, and a few more with the body panels off.  I also have a
dial-up connection, so if anyone wants to see them I guess I can upload
them
to Yahoo.

Ok, that was a Walt-sized post.  Sorry about that, but I would hate to see
someone get screwed over this.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Coe [mailto:Whalt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:06 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] sad De Lorean on Ebay...


Before you posted this, I was going to suggest that you tell the whole
story
rather than just announce you are disappointed.  It's the juicy details
that
add the spice to life. ;-)

Walt



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