[DMCForum] Re: Farrar's New DeLo?!

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Did you buy a little silver car without telling anyone?

Don't know much about Rangers. Somebody once told me they use a Mazda
engine of some ilk (have heard access for maintenance is a nightmare).
You really should consider a full size, for the bed if nothing else.

Aren't most pickup trucks at least Class II? The bumper bolts directly
to the frame! If so, I'm sure you'll be OK, especially if your Ranger
is straight drive. I've seen baby trucks pulling trailers on I-95. The
weight limit you're most familiar with (1/2 ton for example) is for
the rear axle. Check to see what the GTW is.  

I pulled a 4,800 lbs suicide door Lincoln home from Ohio (on a dolly!
Front wheels didn't even fit into the wells. I simply strapped it to
the dolly frame with come-alongs and took the dolly fenders off so it
could turn. Dolly tires still rubbed the car nevertheless) with a Ford
300, including mountains of PA and MD. There's a particularly brutal
hill on I-70 called "South Mountain". Everytime I go over, the
shoulders are littered with dead vehicles. My truck made it (barely)
in 2nd gear (had the mountain had been 10 feet taller I would have
been in 1st!).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Farrar Russell Carroll Hudkins"
<fhudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> Bill:
>  
> That having been said, do you think I could pull a DMC-12 with my 3.0L
> Ranger? (I'd be using one of those "dollies" which allow it to go on
> two wheels.) I forget the tongue weight - the manual's in the glovebox
> right now and I'm at work. How much does a DeLorean weigh? 2700+ lbs
> IIRC ... any more precise figures out there?
>  
> Farrar
> 
>       -----Original Message----- 
>       From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson@xxxx] 
>       Sent: Mon 1/12/2004 3:22 PM 
>       To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>       Cc: 
>       Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Help, Andrei's Fallen Into the HP Trap
> [Slightly T]
>       
>       
> 
>       Andrei, Andrei, Andrei -- don't fall into the HP trap.
>       
>       Horsepower is calculated from 2 numbers: Torque and RPM's. An
> engine
>       that "only" produces a couple hundred HP, but does so at low
> RPM's, is
>       MUCH more powerful than an engine rated even higher at high
> RPM's.
>       
>       Consider a semi trailer tractor. "Only" puts out 300-400 HP.
> But it
>       does so at 1,500 RPM. Do you suppose your Porsche -- with the
> same HP
>       rating -- could pull 80,000 lbs as that tractor does? The
> answer is of
>       course "no" because it would never be able to rev anywhere
> near its
>       power band (actually it would stall the minute you let the
> clutch out).
>       
>       Domestic big blocks have tremendous torque -- 3 or 4 times as
> much as
>       a little sports car engine. That's why you see people towing
> boats and
>       trailers with a Cadillac, but never a Honda.
>       
>       FYI: HP = Torque x RPM / 5252.
>       
>       The 450 HP rating of your 454 is probably a gross number,
> calculated
>       out of the vehicle with no accessories on the front. That's
> the way
>       American manufacturers did it in the 1960s. Actual net HP in
> the car
>       averaged a hundred ponies or so lower. Domestic manufacturers
> switched
>       to net HP ratings at the same time they dropped compression
> ratios --
>       lower compression does lower HP, but not as badly as the 1972
> numbers
>       make it appear.
>       
>       If you're having problems with the 454 in your boat, consider
> a Ford
>       460. I know it's a popular marine application.
>       
>       Bill Robertson
>       #5939
>       
>       >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrei Cular"
> <andreic@xxxx> wrote:
>       > I'll have a charged battery and fuel waiting for your
> arrival.  I would
>       > really like to run the engine a little, it has been about a
> year since I
>       > even turned it over.  But I did poor some mystery oil into
> the
>       cylinders.
>       >
>       > 1200lb of steel is a bit much considering it only puts out
> 450hp.  A
>       Porsche
>       > 944 can run 350hp for 200k miles with no problem and the
> block and head
>       > can't weigh more than 120lb.  Its only 200k cause the car
> isn't that old
>       > yet.
>       >
>       > Andrei
>       >
>       >
>       > ----- Original Message -----
>       > From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx>
>       > To: <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 1:06 PM
>       > Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Fixing Andrei's Engine [OT]
>       >
>       >
>       > > I can fix that...
>       > >
>       > > Seriously, my biggest objection to 1970's emissions is the
> Rube
>       > > Goldberg way manufacturers went about it. Studying one of
> those vacuum
>       > > diagrams gives me a headache. All it takes is one leaking
> check or
>       > > delay valve to render the car undriveable. Ford used both
> hot and cold
>       > > ported vacuum switches, and woe to the owner who got them
> backwards.
>       > > Just give me one vacuum line (ported from the carburetor)
> straight to
>       > > my distributor and I'm happy.
>       > >
>       > > If the old model engines upset Uncle Sam so much,
> manufacturers should
>       > > have put them to rest rather than strangling them with all
> this add on
>       > > crap.
>       > >
>       > > On the plus side -- it is very easy to remove it all and
> return an
>       > > engine back to its original design (less square bore carb,
> flat top
>       > > pistons, and low/closed chamber heads of course).
>       > >
>       > > I also plug the EGR port, which after 100,000 miles has so
> much soot
>       > > and carbon built up as to basically have plugged itself
> anyway.
>       > >
>       > > Breakerless ignition *IS* cool. I converted my 1969 model
> engine to a
>       > > neat little unit Pertronix puts out. Mounts inside the
> distributor
>       > > where the points used to be. Allowed me to keep the
> original advance
>       > > curve, which is probably the only aspect of that engine
> that could
>       > > make Martin happy.
>       > >
>       > > Re: excessive metal in big blocks -- you're not supposed
> to be able to
>       > > hold one up towards the sun and see light shining
> though...
>       > >
>       > > Bill Robertson
>       > > #5939
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