What vintage are you speaking of? In the 1960's and 1970's, AMC did indeed have a deservedly bad rep for rust. So starting with the 1980 model year they revamped their entire assembly process to combat that image. Went exclusively to galvanized sheetmetal (giant ventilator hoods evacuated the welding fumes), added a primer bath to the assembly line, made Zeibarting standard (every other company offered it as an option) and so on. Cost a fortune, and AMC never recovered the investment. Works excellently though. I once accidentally purchased a Spirit that originated in Michigan, of all places. Gas tank and the entire brake system were of course gone, but the body was nearly perfect. That, my friend, is serious shit, not bullshit. Don't you remember the TV commercial where AMC drove a Concord off a dock into the ocean, left it there to stew, then pulled it out later with no rust effects whatsoever? I defy you to find an AMC Eagle with anything remotely similar to the rust effects that even stablemate Jeeps suffered (the Jeep assembly process wasn't modified as the passenger cars were). BTW: Holes where Zeibart was sprayed were not drilled -- they are part of the normal stamping process. Every car has them -- even DeLoreans (inside the door). Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, delorean <delorean@...> wrote: > > I remember up here in Wisconsin how AMC's would rust out like no > Tomorrow. the holes they drilled in to add rustproofing eventually > held in water and accelerated the rust process because they would > rust out around the drill holes. > > Maybe down south where you live they held up but up here with the > road salt they rusted just as bad as any other car. > > The funniest part is I see every old car from the 70's and 80's > driving on the road, if I want to see an AMC from that era I have to > go to a car show because the rest are all rusted to shit! > > Now that is some Bullshit about AMC not rusting! > > Mark V > > > > > On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:21 AM, content22207 wrote: > > > Don't know how much time you spend on the List, but I've been waving > > the flag of our fallen marque: > > > > Everyone's all "ooh ooh" over DMC's epoxy coated low carbon sheet > > metal frame. How innovative. Best rust protection of its time. DMC was > > running circles around every other car company. > > > > Bullshit. > > > > By 1980, AMC was light years ahead of everyone in the rust prevention > > department -- DMC included: > > - 100% galvanized sheet metal (heavier gauge than anyone else, thank > > you very much) > > - Assembled vehicle dipped in a primer bath > > - Zeibart sprayed in all body cavities > > - Plastic wheel well liners > > - Best exterior enamel ever used (full of lead -- that's why it > > adheres so well) > > > > Unfortunately your Pacers were a tad early for this comprehensive > > program. > > > > Bill Robertson > > #5939 > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/