You're funny, BOB. Ok, I am going to claim the wheelbarrow as the first sports car. It had an open top, sleek lines, and you could pick up chicks. Literally. :-) Not all SUV's have lift gates. Not all SUV's have performance. Not all SUV's have rack and pinion steering. SUV's are generally bigger and wider. So, by your definition we just took, what, 80% of SUV's off the road? That's going to piss off Big Oil. Greg _____ From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Brandys Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:06 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: SUV Origins The pacer was the first SUV. Just cutting pieces of other cars, as examples, is not the "SUV package." Look at the PACER body lines compared to ALL SUVs, they are essentially parallel. and The pacer had the lift gate. and The pacer had the performance and The pacer had rack and pinion steering and the Pacer was bigger and wider The pacer was the first complete SUV package. Bob. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/