If that was the case then so was my parents Pinto Wagon??? Lol >From Merriam Webster dictionary: sport-utility vehicle One entry found. sport-utility vehicle Main Entry: sport–util·i·ty vehicle [cid:image001.gif@01C84F87.9FC6BC00] <javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?sport01s.wav=sport-utility%20vehicle')> Pronunciation: \ˈspȯrt-yü-ˈti-lə-tē-\ Function: noun Date: 1978 : a rugged automotive vehicle similar to a station wagon but built on a light-truck chassis —called also sport-ute \-ˌyüt\ sport-utility, SUV If I am not mistaken the Pacer was not built on a truck chasis? Now from Wikipedia entry for Hatchback: AMC introduced a hatchback version to its larger Hornet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Hornet> models in 1973. The Hornet was restyled and renamed the Concord<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Concord> (a Concord hatchback was made for 1978 and 1979 only) while smaller Gremlin was restyled and renamed the AMC Spirit<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Spirit> in 1979. However, the far more characteristic AMC Pacer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Pacer> debuted in 1975. It was the first modern "cab-forward<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_forward>" vehicle design that focused on interior space with short and rounded overhangs. The Pacer's aerodynamic<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamic> and jelly bean shaped hatchback stood out among the square, formal, box-type designs that were prevalent all the way through the early 1980s. The Pacer was NOT an SUV lol. It was just an old car that had a nice sized engine and a hatchback. Some say cute, some say awful, take your pick. In the end it is just another relic of a dead car company. Yes, I know they were bought and made part of Chrysler, but lets not split hairs. Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Florida Stiefel Aluminum Inc DMC Vin 03461 & 16879 ________________________________ From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Brandys Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:06 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: SUV Origins The pacer was the first SUV. Just cutting pieces of other cars, as examples, is not the "SUV package." Look at the PACER body lines compared to ALL SUVs, they are essentially parallel. and The pacer had the lift gate. and The pacer had the performance and The pacer had rack and pinion steering and the Pacer was bigger and wider The pacer was the first complete SUV package. Bob. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/