I may be stonewalled by a Moderator on the List. If so, here's my reply echoed on the Forum: I tried to reply to your invective, but the message was either lost in the ether or disproved by the moderator. I'll assume the former and try again: Eurospec K-Jet offers many "improvements" (I put that word in quotation marks because they actually predate F Series): Eurospec CPR's start with a lower control pressure and take longer to warm up. This improves engine performance in adverse atmospheric conditions, such as moisture or cold. Final control pressure is of course identical to F Series. Eurospec CPR's are much simpler than F Series. Those with throttle enrichment respond directly proportionally to manifold vacuum pressures (no thermal cutoffs or delay valves). Eurospec ignition distributors have a much steeper advance curve. This puts base timing much closer to TDC (more compression before ignition). Increased compression of course yields more power from the combustion -- same effect as forced induction. The steep advance curve also makes Eurospec PRV's freer rev'ing. Note that overall compression is higher (taller pistons). Note also that Eurospec ignition distributors also respond directly proportionally to manifold vacuum pressures. Eurospec fuel injectors *ARE* metered higher. Don't have my Volvo manuals with me, but I do remember reading more volumetric output for given pressures than F Series. You can't have higher compression and ignition closer to TDC without running a richer mixture (why do you think North American specs were dumbed down in the 70's). Eurospec octane requirements are higher as well. Note also that Eurospec PRV's don't have EGR (neither does DeLorean I know, but it was standard on Volvo F Series) -- yet another attempt to lean the fuel/air mixture. I sincerely hope my first reply was lost. It was worded as neutrally as this one, despite the quite unfriendly tone of your post and others. Surely a moderator wouldn't let them through, then quash neutral replies. Regarding your criticism that I "just rattled off a load of differences" -- please reread Farrar's original message. He merely asked what your Eurospec installation looked like. You only mentioned a few observable differences. I filled in the others. Performance wasn't the concern being addressed -- observable differences were. Hopefully the above adequately addresses YOUR (not Farrar's) performance question. I would have thought the above was already common knowledge. You often mention that your Eurospec DeLorean produces 160 HP. Now you know why. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@...> wrote: > > You've basically just rattled off a load of differences. With the > exception of the idle control takeoff, none are "improvements" and many > are because it's from a LATER engine, like the ally metering head, whose > only real advantage is weight and that it doesn't go rusty. To all the > others...... so what? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/