That's why they used the Freon, I believe... It was at the right temp/pressure ratios, and it was recirculated instead of vented... A sealed system. ________________________________ From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Brandys Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:27 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Rich A -- How about this for an electric car? Steam power has a very long history. The major problem is getting the condenser temperature as low as possible to increase the delta T across the turbine or heat exchanger to get maximum efficiency. On steam powered locomotive, they did this by venting directly to atmosphere with increasing expansion of piston drives. However, this generated the need for more water ever 60 miles-hence the development of towns every 60 miles on RR lines. With autos we could do the same thing, but we would need lots of water. In fact, you would go through up to 10 times more water than gasoline ( if I remember the calculations rights.) We looked at this in grad school, when I ran the 1975 auto energy efficiency program at UIC. I have looked at a few stanley steams (ca. 1905?) Huge steam powered cars. There efficiency was about 5 mph according to the owners. Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/