RE: [DMCForum] Is It Worth It?

[Christopher Mack <christopher_mack@xxxxxxxxx>]

Lauren,

I feel your pain.. in the last 5 years $30k has been spent on my car on repairs alone.. .. I didn't do all the work, PO did about half of it.  here is what was done
-replaced transmission (NOS transmission from DeLorean in Texas)
-tear down and rebuilt engine with all new seals and gaskets
-completely replace fuel, clutch, cooling, (and part of) electrical system
-replace steering rack
-replace exhaust system (including 02 sensor and cat)
-repair crumple tubes - had stress cracks in them
-carpet replaced
-seats re-done in leather ($600 installed and they look great)
-angle drive and speedo cables replaced
 sure it was a lot of work, but I have had over 20K trouble free miles on my car and it drives better than any other of the 15 or so deloreans I have driven.. I also have the eibach suspension as well.... as for your car, what does the exhauset need?  just a new cat?  my advice to you is get used parts from Josh haldeman and see if you can have local delorean owners help you with the labor (or have thme do it for you for a fee)....  too bad you're not in caloiforniue.. a d friend of mine just replaced his entire exhaust in less than 3 hours and he is very helpful and charges very reasonable rates ($50 an hour).. If I were you I would keep your car.. as you know once you get another car you will probably have to go through it again and get all the bugs worked oout and is it really worth it to go through all that trouble and stress?? in my opinion no way.. that's why I will probably never sell my DMC-12

-Chris
Nov 81 DMC 6453 (grey int 5 speed)
timnagin <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Excellent point, too, Erik. :)  If she is looking to sell the car then the
cosmetics can go a long way very quickly to make it worth more to a
potential buyer.  

Of course I will bet that after that happens she will want to keep it.

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Erik Geerdink
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:28 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Is It Worth It?

Good point.  One of the first things I tackled was the seats.  You can get
dash covers (i still use mine!) and you can really deep clean carpet.  Those
things are cheap and effective.  Re-doing your seats will make a 100% change
in how you feel about the interior.  Between that, redoing any saggling
headliners, and clean clean clean...you will feel much better.
  Even getting the fascia repainted is relatively cheap.  Under $500.  So,
for around $1000 or so, plus a lot of elbo grease cleaning the interior and
regraining your car...you will see huge improvements, and probably enjoy
your car more.
   
  Erik
  

timnagin  wrote:
  Not trying to question Rob's quote, but why would a new exhaust cost $3k?
The DMCH performance kit is $1500.00 before labor.  I would think an NOS
system would be way less.

Just a suggestion, but maybe if you spent some time and money on things you
can see change, such as the interior and fascia paint, you will feel better
about the spending.  I don't know how much you know about working on cars
but if you spent any sum of money on part of the car you can't see and enjoy
it probably won't reimburse your decision to spend.

I do agree with Ryan that since you have spent so much already you may be
very close to complete.  When you get some of the cosmetics done then you
will actually see things change very fast.  Not many people look at a car
and say, "ooh look!  New wheel bearings!" but they do say, "ooh look!  New
seat covers!" :)

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ryan Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:57 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Is It Worth It?

Hi there,

> I'm struggling with a dilemma right now.  My beloved Belinda needs a
> lot of work done.  She is at Rob's shop.  Apparently, the whole
> exhaust system is shot, and will require $3000 worth of repairs.

You have to ask yourself if you're really in it for the long haul. If
you are, bite and fix her yet again.

I understand your frustration because I have been there myself many
times with various other cars and projects. However, look at it this
way: You've already replaced a large amount of parts. So much of your
car is new again. If you bail out now, you lose all of that effort.

> Does anyone, particularly those of you that have seen my car, have
> any advice as to whether it is worth it?  All total, I have spend
> $27,000 on this car.  For that price, I could have had a perfect
> Delorean.  I'm still left with one with 24,000 miles, and cosmetic
> problems.

24,000 miles is no big deal. Cosmetic problems can be fixed easily. It
sounds like you've replaced most of the mechanical, so you're getting
closer to being "done". Of course, you'll never really be done - even
the new parts will eventually wear out - but it sounds like you're
past the worst of it.

> I hate to sell it, because I love the car and also because I have
> sunk so much money into it, but I don't know what to do.  I can't
> really afford another $3000.

Then wait to perform the repairs until you can. But don't let the car
rot in your garage for several years - start throwing a few hundred
bucks a month in a savings account. That will get you fixed in less
than a year. In the meantime, start the car and run it around the
block a couple times a month, just to keep everything working well.

When you're done, continue putting a bit of money away here and there
so you'll have cash for the next repair. I compare old car repair
bills to the price of a new car. Think about it: $3,000 to fix this
one, or $30,000 to buy a cookie cutter car at the local dealership?
Even if you had to spend $3k a year for the next several years you'd
be money ahead AND you'll have a lot more fun driving the DeLorean.

> Any idea what a car with moderate aesthetic problems (chipped paint,
> saggy rear fascia, torn seats, dashboard crack) and a bad exhaust
> would fetch?

Unfortunately, not much. I wouldn't pay more than $10k. You might be
able to fetch $15k, if you're lucky.

But that's how it works with old cars. You put a lot more money into
them than they're worth. The key is, is it worth it to you?

After you fix the car you'll have $30k into it, right? Think about
other cars you could have bought for $30k and ask yourself if you
would have rather had them over your DeLorean? I know the answer to
that because I made it myself 2 years ago: Buy a new sports car (RX-8,
new Z, MR-2 Spyder?) or buy a DeLorean? I chose the DeLorean.

> After this, I think I will have replaced every part of the engine
> except for the transmission.  Any idea how long that will take to
> go?

Hehe, who knows! But if you make car payments to yourself for the next
few years, you'll have the cash on hand to replace it when it does!

BTW, even newer, "normal" cars are not immune to the repairs you've
been going through. A brand new car will be for a few years, but
eventually the warranty runs out and things start to break and you end
up sinking money back into it. That's just the price you pay for
transportation... and it's almost always cheaper, even in the long
run, to fix old cars than to replace them with new ones.

-Ryan 




 
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