[DMCForum] Re: Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...

["Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx>]

" but not when it comes the used dealers.
Think about how many different cars are out there to know?"

The is the guy is too damn lazy to know the facts about exotic cars 
since he SELLS exotic cars, then he shouldn't be selling them.

Most people that sell exotic cars don't make ridiculous statements 
with zero facts about a car. That shows his ignorance.

I will happily continue to bash these slimeball sellers because that 
is what they are. Just greasy used car slaesman out to make a buck.

The ones that advertise exactly what they are selling, even if not 
100% accurate are fine. But to make opiniated stupid comments like 
the current seller we are nitpicking on is just ridiculous.

It is the sellers that hype up cars with problems and other facts to 
make buyers fooled into thinking they are getting more than they are 
are the main ones I bash.

Lie the guys that say "I decided NOT to charge the ac to leave the r-
12 or 134a conversion up to them to decide. Aw what a guy.

Or the ones who leave parts off for "weight reduction mods" ... Jeesh!

If they just list them honestly no problem, but dancing around issues 
without fully listing them, or blatantly just being dead wrong with 
your facts as a sign that they just want to sell to the first sucker 
are the ones who'll I'll always bash.

Just always hate the greasy used car salesman mentality, and hate 
when it spills over to the Delorean as well.

Maybe these comments help newbies avoid getting suckered into a 
basketcase??? Gives them some info to shop with?


-Joe





--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxx> 
wrote:
>
> Oh you do have valid points for sure.  I agree that low tires are 
an obvious
> thing to rectify, as are us telling potential new owners about 
possible
> problems.  
> 
> What I have an issue with is owners bashing these eBay auctions 
even before
> potential owners ask, then making them all sound like they are 
cheats or
> conning people.
> 
> Now Ron was saying he got his wife's car from this same dealer and 
has been
> very happy with them.  Also he points out that most of the cars are 
exotic
> cars on consignment.  That being said I would not expect all the 
sales force
> to know or understand all the nuances of these cars.  You can know 
only so
> much about every car you sell if you are a dealer.
> 
> As for your truck, I agree that a salesman at a new car dealership 
should
> know his cars/trucks inside and out, but not when it comes the used 
dealers.
> Think about how many different cars are out there to know?
> 
> :)
> 
> Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf
> Of timnagin
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:26 PM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DMCForum] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...
> 
> Not trying to hijack a topic, but...
> 
> I agree with some of what you stated, Jack, but would you ever buy 
something
> from someone who didn't understand their own product?
> 
> I could give them not knowing the bonnet was different, but the 
tire being
> almost flat?  They clean the vehicles to make them look better so 
that
> detail should have been noticed early on.
> 
> If they can not take a few seconds to ensure some details, such as
> misspellings, can anyone be absolutely sure they didn't over look 
anything
> really important?  A friend recently went to buy a new truck and 
the sales
> guy was clueless.  It was as if he didn't even do his homework on 
the
> product he was trying to sell and had to go ask the sales manager.  
What the
> hell was he there for?
> 
> Finally, there are people who come to these lists trying to learn 
more about
> their future purchase and may not be aware of these things that 
long-time
> owners consider commonplace.  I am not bashing you, just offering 
another
> opinion, and we all know what opinions are like. :)
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of
> Jack Stiefel
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
> 
> Now once in a while (more often now that the DeLorean Police are in 
force)
> an eBay auction come up and people rip into it.  First off lets not 
even try
> to argue DMCVIN6683, his arguments are indeed valid, but that's not 
the
> whole story.
> 
> I am not affiliated with this seller or any other, but sometimes I 
get
> perturbed about these little things.
> 
> This place is obviously a used car dealership getting many cars in 
each
> month and there are tons of rumors that are about the history of 
these cars,
> but lets face it, do you really expect everyone selling a car to 
know
> everything about such car?  This place got this on a trade, why 
would they
> know when the hood was changed?  Maybe this car was returned to the 
original
> dealer for repairs and that was the only hood they still had in 
stock?
> Maybe they wanted that hood and changed it?  Is every car that was 
ever
> built pieced together if any part was replaced?  
> 
> If you got a good deal on a trade in for your dealership, would you 
spend
> hours reading up on each and every car, or would you take a lot of 
shots of
> the car and ask a fair market value for it?  I for one would sell 
the car,
> providing as much detail as was necessary.
> 
> I mean come on, the tire is low?  There is a mis-spelling on the 
page?
> These are things to be concerned about?  Ok, yes the lack of frame 
pics is
> suspect, but really if you were selling an old Ford would you crawl 
under it
> and take a lot of shots?  Has anyone asked this guy for any frame 
pics?  I
> wouldn't even know what markings my car does/should have for 
updates, and I
> own 2, one for 8 years now!!!
> 
> This auction might indeed be a bad deal or a great one, but if the 
DeLorean
> Police bash every one that comes along, none will be sold as 
potential
> buyers will stray away.
> 
> Just my 2 cents, but lets all try to keep eBay auctions in 
perspective.
> 
> Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
> DMC Vin 03461 1981 Grey 5 speed
> DMC Vin 16879 1983 Black 5 speed
> Listen to the best music of all time at www.fmtimemachine.com
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>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of
> DMCVIN6683
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:54 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
> 
> The owner claims it is a real Delorean because it is a early 1981 
and 
> all the other cars are pieced together. Funny how his car has a gas 
> flap hood and they were not available for his VIN# so it appears 
his is 
> pieced together as well. Oh yeah the color of the car is Stainless 
> Steel not Stainless Steal like he has it on the ad. Also the right 
rear 
> tire is almost flat, he could at least put air in it for the 
photos. I 
> think he wants too much for it but this is my opinions.
> 
> No pictures of the underbody so i am assuming there may be rust 
because 
> he has lots of pictures of the interior to make you forget about 
the 
> underbody and none of the frame and we all know how the frames can 
> rust. Also i dont see any markings showing any of the safety 
> campaign/recalls have been done. I would have somebody check it out 
for 
> you if you are serious.
> 
> 
> Typical used car sales man attitude i get by reading the 
description 
> and not knowledgeable about the car at all.
> 
> Just my opinions and i dont like fast pitch fancy sales ad's to 
make 
> you think you are buying more than you see or making you think it 
is 
> more of a car than it really is.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Alberts wrote:
> 
> > I'm thinking of placing a bid on eBay for the DeLorean at Charles 
> > Schmidt
> > and Company.  Does anybody have any specific knowledge about the 
car?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> 
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