Re: [DMCForum] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

I didnt bash the seller or auction, i was stating my opinions and 
pointing out easy and stupid mistakes that make sellers look bad.

Any seller with half a mind should make their car look as presentable 
as possible and there facts as accurate as possible.

These were my opinions.

Mark V


On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:04 PM, Jack Stiefel wrote:

> Oh you do have valid points for sure. I agree that low tires are an 
> obvious
>  thing to rectify, as are us telling potential new owners about 
> possible
>  problems.Â
>
>  What I have an issue with is owners bashing these eBay auctions even 
> before
>  potential owners ask, then making them all sound like they are cheats 
> or
>  conning people.
>
>  Now Ron was saying he got his wife's car from this same dealer and 
> has been
>  very happy with them. Also he points out that most of the cars are 
> exotic
>  cars on consignment. That being said I would not expect all the 
> sales force
>  to know or understand all the nuances of these cars. You can know 
> only so
>  much about every car you sell if you are a dealer.
>
>  As for your truck, I agree that a salesman at a new car dealership 
> should
>  know his cars/trucks inside and out, but not when it comes the used 
> dealers.
>  Think about how many different cars are out there to know?
>
>  :)
>
>  Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
>  DMC Vin 03461 1981 Grey 5 speed
>  DMC Vin 16879 1983 Black 5 speed
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>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
>  Of timnagin
>  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:26 PM
>  To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [DMCForum] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay...
>
>  Not trying to hijack a topic, but...
>
>  I agree with some of what you stated, Jack, but would you ever buy 
> something
>  from someone who didn't understand their own product?
>
>  I could give them not knowing the bonnet was different, but the tire 
> being
>  almost flat? They clean the vehicles to make them look better so that
>  detail should have been noticed early on.
>
>  If they can not take a few seconds to ensure some details, such as
>  misspellings, can anyone be absolutely sure they didn't over look 
> anything
>  really important? A friend recently went to buy a new truck and the 
> sales
>  guy was clueless. It was as if he didn't even do his homework on the
>  product he was trying to sell and had to go ask the sales manager. 
> What the
>  hell was he there for?
>
>  Finally, there are people who come to these lists trying to learn 
> more about
>  their future purchase and may not be aware of these things that 
> long-time
>  owners consider commonplace. I am not bashing you, just offering 
> another
>  opinion, and we all know what opinions are like. :)
>
>  Greg
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of
>  Jack Stiefel
>  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:01 PM
>  To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: RE: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
>
>  Now once in a while (more often now that the DeLorean Police are in 
> force)
>  an eBay auction come up and people rip into it. First off lets not 
> even try
>  to argue DMCVIN6683, his arguments are indeed valid, but that's not 
> the
>  whole story.
>
>  I am not affiliated with this seller or any other, but sometimes I get
>  perturbed about these little things.
>
>  This place is obviously a used car dealership getting many cars in 
> each
>  month and there are tons of rumors that are about the history of 
> these cars,
>  but lets face it, do you really expect everyone selling a car to know
>  everything about such car? This place got this on a trade, why would 
> they
>  know when the hood was changed? Maybe this car was returned to the 
> original
>  dealer for repairs and that was the only hood they still had in stock?
>  Maybe they wanted that hood and changed it? Is every car that was 
> ever
>  built pieced together if any part was replaced?Â
>
>  If you got a good deal on a trade in for your dealership, would you 
> spend
>  hours reading up on each and every car, or would you take a lot of 
> shots of
>  the car and ask a fair market value for it? I for one would sell the 
> car,
>  providing as much detail as was necessary.
>
>  I mean come on, the tire is low? There is a mis-spelling on the page?
>  These are things to be concerned about? Ok, yes the lack of frame 
> pics is
>  suspect, but really if you were selling an old Ford would you crawl 
> under it
>  and take a lot of shots? Has anyone asked this guy for any frame 
> pics? I
>  wouldn't even know what markings my car does/should have for updates, 
> and I
>  own 2, one for 8 years now!!!
>
>  This auction might indeed be a bad deal or a great one, but if the 
> DeLorean
>  Police bash every one that comes along, none will be sold as potential
>  buyers will stray away.
>
>  Just my 2 cents, but lets all try to keep eBay auctions in 
> perspective.
>
>  Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
>  DMC Vin 03461 1981 Grey 5 speed
>  DMC Vin 16879 1983 Black 5 speed
>  Listen to the best music of all time at www.fmtimemachine.com
>  Come hang out in The DMC Lounge --
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCLounge/
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of
>  DMCVIN6683
>  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:54 PM
>  To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: Re: [DML] Charles Schmidt Auction at EBay
>
>  The owner claims it is a real Delorean because it is a early 1981 and
>  all the other cars are pieced together. Funny how his car has a gas
>  flap hood and they were not available for his VIN# so it appears his 
> is
>  pieced together as well. Oh yeah the color of the car is Stainless
>  Steel not Stainless Steal like he has it on the ad. Also the right 
> rear
>  tire is almost flat, he could at least put air in it for the photos. I
>  think he wants too much for it but this is my opinions.
>
>  No pictures of the underbody so i am assuming there may be rust 
> because
>  he has lots of pictures of the interior to make you forget about the
>  underbody and none of the frame and we all know how the frames can
>  rust. Also i dont see any markings showing any of the safety
>  campaign/recalls have been done. I would have somebody check it out 
> for
>  you if you are serious.
>
>
>  Typical used car sales man attitude i get by reading the description
>  and not knowledgeable about the car at all.
>
>  Just my opinions and i dont like fast pitch fancy sales ad's to make
>  you think you are buying more than you see or making you think it is
>  more of a car than it really is.
>
>  Good luck.
>
>
>  On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Alberts wrote:
>
>  > I'm thinking of placing a bid on eBay for the DeLorean at Charles
>  > Schmidt
>  > and Company. Does anybody have any specific knowledge about the 
> car?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  >
>  > Dennis
>
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