Re: [DMCForum] CENSORSHIP

[Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxxxxxxx>]

For what it's worth, Marc has been invited back to the forum. His
banning was only temporary.

I'll address the rest of your concerns off-list. If anyone else is
interested in hearing what I have to say on this matter, let me know,
I would be happy to discuss it with you..

-Ryan

On 10/5/05, Jon Heese <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've listened to the viewpoints of those in favor of the new system with
> as open of a mind as I can have, but still can't convince myself that
> the whole change doesn't betray the initial impetus behind the group's
> establishment.
>
> I honestly think that the "many" that Ryan references below don't
> actually outweigh the "few" by as much as some might have us believe.  I
> think the polls on the subject were incomplete at best, as they did not
> address by what rules the offense would be identified (i.e. what,
> specifically, counts as political, religious?) or by whom it would be
> identified as such.  Incidentally, they did not mention the creation of
> a body of "moderators" with administrative control over the group members.
>
> I applaud the moderators for making all administrative actions public,
> but it's ironic how it only seems to underscore the pettiness of the
> whole process.
>
> I had an off-list discussion with Dave about the subject before the
> recent administrative change, and he seemed to be cooperative and to
> want to resolve the matter intelligently.  I have not talked directly to
> Ryan or Greg about anything, but you both seem very smart and logical.
> I'm just not sure what makes the three of you so intolerant of what you
> don't like to hear to the point of whining, and then near-despotic
> control in the guise of a mandate from the majority.  It's cliche, but I
> believe in the whole "catching more flies with honey" adage, and this
> moderator situation smells like a big steaming bowl of vinegar to me.
>
> Your almost immediate banning of Marc (for a violation not addressed in
> the polls, by the way) *seemed* very transparent and self-serving.  I'm
> not claiming any foul play here, I do think it smells a little funny,
> for what I think are obvious reasons.
>
> Really, I think what happens here on this forum affects us all very
> little in the end.  I happen to enjoy this particular discussion because
> it makes me think hard about the politics of the group and what I
> believe to be its best strategy for self-government.  Thank you all for
> letting me opine and for responding civilly.  I welcome your thoughts.
>
> Regards,
> Jon Heese
>

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