[DMCForum] Re: Hybrid question for Dr. Dave - Paging Dr. Dave...

["cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Rick,

Basically, I'm just investigating different options to get me to the 
Metro every day. Bio-diesel? Hybrid? Pure electric?

Everyone presents valid concerns, ie the "energy chain" extra cost of 
household electricity to charge the hybrid, + fuel etc...

I have a 28-ish mile round trip commute. I have spoken with Dave 
Delman. We're having interesting conversations regarding the cost of 
KW hours vs. the current price of gasoline which is just going up, 
up, up. I also happen to think that the price of electricty depends 
on who your utility company is, and what they use to provide 
electricity. A nuclear or hydro powerplant has little increased costs 
as petroleum costs rise. A coal-fired plant experiences some 
increased costs because as I've observed here, diesel loco's haul the 
coal to the plant and there is the cost of diesel to consider. Either 
way, the cost of an electric charge is not going to outpace the cost 
of gasoline or diesel. Already too many people are fighting over 
diesels for the bio conversion. People are paying quite a bit of 
money for junker diesels on Ebay. You can also blunt the cost of 
charging your vehicle with home solar systems. Charge a bank of 
batteries in your basement with solar panels on your roof and/or a 
small wind-mill, then plug the car into that. It'll then cost less 
grid-provided juice to charge the car. Even building only one EV for 
me or my wife will reduce our bill significantly. I'm looking at a 
400-500$ savings annually at current prices without the home 
solar/wind systems.

I found an EV trading website with a converted Bradley GT II. $5k and 
boy is it pretty! I'm also looking at a little EV utility van. I'm 
considering aiding the charging by putting a huge solar panel on it's 
large roof to at least trickle charge it for the 10 hours a day that 
it'll be sitting at the Metro parking lot. 

This is all fast and loose. Nothing hard or on paper yet. And 
(sigh)...yes, I would like to pollute less. I'm no tree-hugger but 
when a foreigner complains about what a wasteful bunch we are and can 
tell him to shut his pie-hole. Like Vixen Dave says, RRR. I'll fix up 
a used EV perhaps..

Rich

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "twinenginedmc12" 
<twinenginedmc12@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi Rich.
> 
> I know I'm not Dave, but I do have some experience with this.  It's 
not 
> too complicated, but it will be a little expensive but you probably 
> already know that.  You'll probably end up putting them in series 
to 
> minimize losses, and have each battery monitored with little sense 
> lines that connect to a charge controller ($$).  This is a common 
way 
> of doing it with NiCd batteries.  I suspect that Li Ion batteries 
are 
> done similarly.  
> 
> I can't wait to see what cool thing you're making.  I hope you 
don't 
> let anybody talk you out of it, and try not to electrocute yourself.
> 
> Rick Gendreau
> 
>  --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > 
> > I recently read about hybrid hot-rodders who are installing small 
> > stacks of Li-ion batteries in their hybrids for extended mileage- 
> > anywhere from 80 to 250. They plug 'em in at home to charge them 
each 
> > day. When the spare batteries drain, the normal hybrid action 
kicks 
> in 
> > and mileage drops to the car's advertised rating.
> > 
> > Do you think you could figure out how to wire these batteries in 
if 
> > someone asked you to?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Rich A.
> > #5335

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