[DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch

["Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx>]

How Much?


-Joe



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx> 
wrote:
> I wonder if it would have been better to re-design a new rotory 
style 
> switch, with better
> contacts instead of the faulty push-button style.
> And, if the little craphic in the center is an issue I could easily 
make 
> some laminated decals
> to replace that one that would look really good and only cost a few 
bucks.
> Anyone interested in these?
> I will make them.
> - VB
> 
> >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
> >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
> >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:51:06 -0000
> >
> >The switch isn't a easy peice to reproduce, it looks like. There 
are 6
> >or so pieces which need to be cast, just for the plastic. Then 
you've
> >print the icon on the front. Next you've got to stamp the metal 
pieces
> >for the copper contacts, source a spring, and install a light bulb.
> >And THEN assemble the whole thing! It's tiny, but a bit more
> >complicated than you'd think a headlight switch should have to be.
> >
> >But then again, the DeLorean is the only car that I've ever seen 
with
> >a 2 position, push button switch for the head lights. Every other
> >vehicle has used either a pull knob with a built-in rheostat, or a
> >twist switch. But DMCH can't redesign the switch over to these. I
> >don't know if liability is so much of a factor, as is the fact that
> >everyone would bitch that it's not original, and hence would then
> >avoid buying one on purpose.
> >
> >-Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" 
<videobob@xxxx> wrote:
> > > I didn't know they needed to make 1000 of them as a minimum.
> > > I thought it was something like, 50 or a 100.
> > > I don't know how much they are going to cost to make, but at 250
> >they will
> > > be
> > > taking in $10,000 which they are holding and presumably earning
> >interest on.
> > > I could be worng, but maybe this fee is paying for the 
production
> >and the
> > > other
> > > 750 are gravy? At retail these 750 would then all sell for 
another
> >$50,000
> > > or so.
> > > Altogether it is a $60,000 deal at gross.
> > >
> > > Hey, I am glad they are doing it and it is a smart way of doing 
it,
> >they win
> > > win.
> > >
> > > - VB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
> > > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:41:19 -0000
> > > >
> > > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" 
<videobob@xxxx>
> >wrote:
> > > > > What was the minimum of switches they needed to make in 
order to
> > > >make them?
> > > > > - VB
> > > >
> > > >The minimum order acccording to their website, is 1,000 
switches. And
> > > >since they're asking for 250 pre-orders, that means that DMCH 
is
> > > >already ordering 750 of them on their own.
> > > >
> > > >The headlight switch is a wearable part, both internally, and
> > > >externally. Aside from wearing out on the inside, it also can 
wear out
> > > >the graphic on the outside, if someone kept pushing on the 
center of
> > > >the button with their finger. And if you've ever seens a car 
that's
> > > >had the icon worn and scraped away, you know how nasty it 
looks.
> > > >
> > > >Headlights themselves have absolutely nothing at all to do 
with the
> > > >headlamp switch. All it does, is feed power to two relays, 
which in
> > > >turn actually carry the load to the low, and high beams. 
However, the
> > > >headlight switch does carry the load for 10 external lights, 
and
> > > >anwhere from 6 to 11 internal lights. Let me break it down.
> > > >
> > > >External:
> > > >4x Side Indicators
> > > >2x Front Markers
> > > >2x Rear Markers
> > > >2x License Plate Lights
> > > >
> > > >Internal
> > > >5x Binnacle Lights
> > > >1x Cigarette Lighter
> > > >1x Shifter Indicator (if Automatic)
> > > >4x A/C Panel Lights (if dimmer bypass jumper installed)
> > > >
> > > >Now that's a helluva lot of lights to try and power, just thru 
one
> > > >small switch. And you still have to remember that you've also 
got
> > > >several relays that are feed thru the switch as well. But, the 
switch
> > > >can do it, as many other cars out there do, as this is a 
common design
> > > >(so don't blame DMC!) But as soon as you get the slightest of 
shorts,
> > > >it will kill the switch.
> > > >
> > > >Now the circuits here are fused, but only for the individual 
circuits,
> > > >and not for all of them together as a whole, to try and 
protect the
> > > >headlight switch itself (once again, a common design). Fusing 
the
> > > >switch isn't nessisarry, and could really be a hastle if some 
how, the
> > > >fuse did blow. Installing a relay is the key to protecting the 
switch,
> > > >by isolating the individual circuits, and letting the fuses 
continue
> > > >to do their job.
> > > >
> > > >Otherwise, if you don't wish to modify the car, keep your 
sockets and
> > > >electrical connections clean, and switch over the lights to 
LEDs when
> > > >possible. You could safely swap the license plate lamps on the
> > > >outside, and ALL of the internal lamps on the inside. This 
alone would
> > > >greatly reduce the load on both the switch, and the wiring.
> > > >
> > > >-Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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