[DMCForum] Re: Plug-in Hybrid.

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

No, I understand quite well how hybrids work. But there have infact 
been quite a few complaints from consumers that they are NOT 
delivering the gas milage promised on the sticker. As with the 
Insight, they have had people on TV out here complaining that they're 
getting worse gas milage, than other econmy cars out there. 
Especially because of the whole A/C system issue.

As a long term solution to our energy woes, hybrids are just not the 
answer. Just as may people consider 4x4 SUVs specialty vehicles that 
no one really needs, so is the same true for hybrids. Unless you live 
in the fuster-cluck that is Los Angeles, or NY traffic, they're 
underpowered, and not a good value for the money. Highway driving, I 
wouldn't own one. And being that I myself am a hard-core DIY'er who 
works on my own cars to keep them as long as possible, it's not worth 
it either. And batteries for these things ain't cheap either.

There are even reports on peak-platinum that say that we'll exhaust 
our supplies for hybrid batteries, long before we run out of fossil 
fuels themselves, which we're trying to conserve!

-Robert



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxx> wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> > The air conditioning system on a hybrid car is driven off of the
> > accessory belt in a hybrid car, which is in turn driven by the 
engine
> > itself.
> 
> This is no longer the case. The 2004 and later Prius runs the a/c
> compressor with a small electric motor; other hybrids will likely 
move
> to this as well (if they haven't already).
> 
> > So if you drive a Hybrid vehicle, and run the A/C, the hybrid 
functions
> > of said vehicle are automaticly disabled, and it is moved by the
> > engine. Thus, they are not feasable vehicles. You need A/C to 
cool, and
> > to defrost in cold/humid climates. And hybrid engines do not get 
as
> > good gas milage, as their counterparts used in non-hybrid cars. 
Don't
> > know the figures for Toyota, but I have seen on the news where the
> > Honda Insight gets worse gas milage than a Civic DX in this 
senario.
> > 
> > Hybrid cars: Still not the solution to our problems.
> 
> It seems as if you don't know a lot about hybrids; your statements 
are
> silly and untrue.
> 
> Modern hybrid vehicles are moved by both the gas and electric 
engines,
> automatically adjusting the input of each depending on requirements
> and available electric power. Just because the engine is running 
does
> not mean the hybrid functions are "disabled". The gas engines are
> tiny; they use very little fuel and have very little power. The
> electric engines assist in acceleration, hill climbing, etc. The
> "hybrid functions" are never disabled.
> 
> -Ryan

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