[DMCForum] Re: Top Gear... (Erik)

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

If you're talking about the straight six, it is NOT the same motor. 
1996 was the final year for the AMC design. The block itself was 
completely redesigned, is much stronger structurally, and has better 
vibration dampening, although the heads are interchangable.

It's a damn fine engine, that's pretty easy to work on, and straight 
forward. The old Magnum 2.5 that they canceled was literally the same 
engine, with 2 cylinders lopped off. I have that one in my Dakota. 
Everything is in reach, and is easily accessable.

If I end up keeping my truck, a swap over to an I-6, with a 6-speed 
gearbox is definetly a long-term goal. An engine swap on a truck I 
already like is a far cheaper alternative than buying a new pick-up.

-Robert



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> 
wrote:
> That's because it is the old AMC 232/258. One of the single best
> engines ever built. In a fit of genius Chrysler threw away their 225
> when Lee Iacoca reinvented the company. We all know the sad story of
> its aluminum replacement (that's the reason Chrysler resorted to the
> PRV in the LH platform, which was designed by former AMC people 
BTW).
> When Chrysler bought AMC they were smart enough to drop fuel 
injection
> on the 258 and keep using it all the way until 2004.
> 
> You can't kill a 232/258. I don't think you could even hurt it
> intentionally. The things are truly indestructible.
> 
> Do you realize the engine in your 1998 Jeep is a 1964 design? Fuel
> injection is of course late model, but that's in the intake manifold
> only. Rest of the block is pure vintage quality design. It's also a
> torque monster -- something like 215 lbs at no more than 1,800 RPM.
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, DMC Erik <dmcerik@xxxx> wrote:
> > A quick chime in on the Jeep mention.  My parents bought a new 
Jeep
> Cherokee in 1998.  Its the biggest work horse I've seen!  That I-6 
has
> hauled more deloreans across country...hauled more (fill in the 
blank)
> on our flatbed trailer than I can remember.  The thing even hauled 
the
> original D-rex from Texas to Chicago through the mountains.  Sure, 
we
> weren't going 80MPH through the mountains, but a nice steady 55mph 
got
> us there and back with no issues.  When my dad found out they were
> cancelling the Cherokee he shook his head in disbelief.
> > 160K miles later the 1998 Cherokee is still going along, as good 
as
> it was when it was new.
> >  
> > erik
> > 4512
> > 
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> > Once upon a time before the Cherokee got canceled (and now 
brought 
> > back), the I-6 engine was able to fit in both the Cherokee, and 
the 
> > Wrangler. And even the Commanche pick-up truck once upon a time 
ago. 
> > It's a great engine, but what else could you shove it into 
because of 
> > it's length? So when the time comes to retool, it gets dumped in 
> > favor of more compact engines that are used on multiple 
platforms. 
> > And many Jeep owners (including myself) are not happy about the 
> > demise of such a rugged, reliable engine. But Jeeps keep selling, 
so 
> > it's not a loss of profit motivation from consumer input. It's 
just 
> > what's cheaper in the long run, despite customer loyalty in many 
> > cases. Kinda like the F-body too...
> > 
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