[DMCForum] Re: A simple task

["cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Been there done that. 

I tighten my lug nuts to the manual spec by hand with a torque 
wrench. They end up siezed anyway, probably because the car is 
stored outside (gasp!)


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx> 
wrote:
> What about a breaker bar, and an eight foot cheater pipe? I 
haven't 
> found a lug nut anywhere that can survive the monster chater pipe.
> 
> Thankfully, I have never had to use it on a D because I always 
> tighten my own lugs by hand, er, breaker bar.
> 
> 
> -Joe
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> > It is true, dealer mechanics are no better, simply because they 
> > refuse to follow manuals or procedures just as you said.
> > 
> > I own factory manuals on all of my vehicles now, no matter how 
new 
> > or old.
> > 
> > The only reason I went to this a-hole in the first place was 
> because 
> > my own pneumatic impact gun wasn't strong enough. I knew the 
shop 
> > would have a 600 ft/lb. gun.
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > I made this discovery many years ago..  Which forced
> > > me to take on more jobs on my car than I would have
> > > otherwise.  The process too a long time, but I
> > > remember the exact moment I made the decision.
> > > 
> > > It was my Chevy Beretta.  One day on the way home, the
> > > clutch went out. I had never done a front wheel drive
> > > clutch before (heck, I had never done *ANY* clutch
> > > before, but was always told FWD was VERY difficult) so
> > > I took it to a reputable transmission shop.  
> > > 
> > > A week later (I was told the job would take 1 day) I
> > > went to pick it up..  An extra $100 was added to the
> > > bill for some bullshit thing they claimed they needed
> > > to fix "while they were there".  
> > > 
> > > So, I pay my bill.. Get in the car, and drive off.. 
> > > First bump I hit, I hear a loud noise.  Turn around,
> > > go back.  They put it up on the lift, and the problem
> > > was obvious.  The washer on the anti-sway bar was
> > > broken.  They took it apart, and replaced it.  As they
> > > put it back together they used the impact gun.  I
> > > stopped the guy, and explained to him that THIS is why
> > > he broke it in the first place!  
> > > 
> > > While the car was in the air, I then noticed that the
> > > CV boot had slid off of the outer CV joint.  I asked
> > > the mechanic if he had properly supported the axle
> > > when the transmission was out.  He gave me a puzzled
> > > look and called the boss out.  I then had to take out
> > > my factory service manual to show them how the axle is
> > > supposed to be supported.  He told me "Professional
> > > mechanics don't need the manual"..
> > > 
> > > Either way, I told him he was going to need to fix the
> > > boot.  He agreed, and told me to come back later in
> > > the week when he had the part in.
> > > 
> > > <Skipping some boring details>
> > > 
> > > When the went to put the car back together, out comes
> > > the impact gun again.  He puts on the axle nut with
> > > the gun as I am yelling at him to stop!!  I said "You
> > > need to use a torque wrench.  If you don't know the
> > > specification, I will look it up for you".  He
> > > responded "The gun will make it tight enough, it wont
> > > fall off".  So, I had to try and explain to this
> > > "Professional" the TOO Much force would crush the hub
> > > bearing...  After some arguing, he went off to find a
> > > torque wrench.  It took about 20 min for them to find
> > > one.
> > > 
> > > Just one of many stories about lazy/stupid
> > > mechanics... An no, Dealerships are no better.
> > > 
> > > Funny thing is, by the time I had my DeLorean I was
> > > pretty confident in my ability to work on cars.  My
> > > attitude was that I could do no worse than a
> > > "professional".  At least I knew how to read the
> > > service manuals.  
> > > 
> > > When I bought my DeLorean, I had so much trust in Rob
> > > Grady that I would always bring my car to him.  My
> > > thought was, I had all of my other cars to work on I
> > > might as well use a trusted mechanic whenever
> > > possible....  But there is SO much traffic on Long
> > > Island!  ROB, MOVE TO JERSEY!!  :)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- cruznmd <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In my life no matter where I've lived or what
> > > > vehicle I've owned at 
> > > > the time, from my 1964 IH Scout, to my 2 Chevy
> > > > Trackers, to my 2002 
> > > > PT Cruiser and including my DeLorean, EVERY single
> > > > "professional" 
> > > > ASE certified mechanic has caused more damage to my
> > > > vehicle than 
> > > > repair.
> > > > 
> > > > So why do I continue to go there? Because I'm an
> > > > idiot. I keep 
> > > > thinking "they can't all be this incompetent."
> > > > 
> > > > A smiple task, To wit;
> > > > 
> > > > Sir, I have two lugnuts on my DeLorean that have
> > > > become too tight 
> > > > for me to break loose. Can you put your impact gun
> > > > on them for 
> > > > me? "Sure" he says. The guy spins them loose and
> > > > promptly 
> > > > overtightens them with the pneumatic impact gun. I
> > > > now have one 
> > > > stripped lugnut that I can't get off.
> > > > 
> > > > I do solemnly swear that I will never trust a gas
> > > > station mechanic 
> > > > again as long as I live.
> > > > 
> > > > Rich A.
> > > > #5335
> > > 
> > > 
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