[DMCForum] Re: London Buses (Martin Gutkowski)

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It's because of the open platform in the back. New buses have folding
doors -- aren't practical in Central London (no place to pull over to
load & unload). You need that open platform so people can climb on &
off quickly, often while the bus is still moving. Imagine how much
worse congestion would be if buses had to stop in the middle of the
street, totally blocking traffic, and wait while people boarded and
paid the driver as they do in Manchester or Glasgow.

Central London is the only place you'll find those old double deck
buses. That's why they're called "London Buses".

Bill Robertson
#5939
 
>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxx> wrote:
> Same problem in London. There are extremely tough emissions laws over 
> here, and now there's a congestion charge to entering London during the 
> day.
> 
> And what vehicles are exempt? Frigging London buses - and there're
still 
> a large proportion of those ancient ones plodding around. I once
heard a 
> statistic which I can't really remember but it was something like
80% of 
> air pollution in London was caused by the buses.
> 
> FWIW the one that went bang the other day was a new one.
> 
> Martin
> 
> therealdmcvegas wrote:
> 
> > Haze in California is easy to explain. The first part is
> > aggriculture. In central California's San Joaquin Valley, cows
> > outnumber automobiles by a significant number, and expell a huge
> > amount of methane. But there is lots of out-dated farm equipment in
> > use, running vintage diesel engines that the farmers just refuse to
> > replace.
> >
> > The other thing are old cars. Almost anywhere else in the United
> > States, cars will rust. Whether it's road salt, humidity, or salt
> > air, cars here will naturally rust. But not in California. In Los
> > Angeles, it's not uncommon to see old clunkers blowing smoke. There
> > are still many cars from the 60's that are rolling around on the
> > streets. Old cars like this are valuable. Not only are they vintage
> > and desirable, but lower income people love them, because they don't
> > have to worry about passing emissions with them.
> >
> > Since cars just don't die in California, they've had to result to
> > strict emissions standards in an effort to get all these old cars off
> > the road. And in some other cases, their crusher programs to outright
> > destroy cars.
> >
> > -Robert

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