Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

[Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 5/22/05, therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> With this said however, I seriously think that all things considered
> here, I think that VideoBob has been unfairly gotten a bad rap here.
> I honestly do not see the difference between what Tamir has done with
> his website, and what VideoBob did for his. Both offered up DeLorean
> material that they believed the community was interested in. Tamir
> offers short clips for download and distribution off of his website,
> and VB offers longer full length videos, available on DVD. And of
> course he charges for his time to make said copies for others. He's
> had to scan, and encode the video, as well as take the time to
> contruct the DVD menus, etc., Just as Tamir took the time to scan,
> encode, crop, and upload. And neihter are taking the time to lay
> claim to any ownership.
> 

Robert and Tamir are both violating copyright. Strictly speaking,
their actions are illegal. The copyright holders could sue both of
them and anybody else distributing this material without permission.
That said, Robert is much more likely (and deserving) to get nailed
because he is making a profit, just as the street corner bootlegger is
much more likely (and deserving) to get nailed vs. people trading MP3s
on the Internet.

Robert:

>> I buy items at wholesale, in some cases I modify them, repackage them,
>> write manuals for each product, advertise it and mark the price up.
>> That is all absolutely true.

What do you buy at wholesale? Not your antennas, your LEDs or your
radio harnesses.

>> What I don't understand is why it is when I do it, it is "highway robbery"
>> but for everyone else it is just business?

Here's a clue: You paid ~$17 for power antennas at retail and sold
them for $99 (then $79, now $49). That's highway robbery. Why couldn't
you:

1. Say, "Hey guys, I found these great antennas that fit perfectly.
They're only $17, you can buy them here", or,

2. Actually buy them wholesale for $5 like everyone else does and sell
them for $17?

John Hervey doesn't buy alternators at Schuck's for $30 and sell them
for $250. He ACTUALLY BUYS WHOLESALE and marks the parts up fairly. So
does every other DeLorean vendor - except you.

That's why it's highway robbery.

>> If not had been for my researching the LED's and bringing them to public
>> awareness some of you would not have figured out how to circumvent me.

Ah, here we go again. You're smarter and can use a web browser better
than all of us, is that it?

>> I feel the same way about my side stripes, no one else took the time to find
>> the material and make exact replicas of the stripes - people COPIED me but 
>> I still deserve the credit.I have never seen anyone else make vinyl
bumper letters
>> before. The ones I make look fantastic, and only $10.00. You could not get 
>> those designed and cut out for $10.00 anywhere - no way.

Here is where I turn 180 degrees away from "mean asshole picking on
Robert." Your home-made material is nice. You are obviously an
intelligent person with the ability to run a good business and bring
products to market. You have good video editing skills and excellent
design / recreation skills when it comes to printed material. Best of
all, the stuff you make yourself is indeed fairly priced.

I won't give you shit for selling a $10 DVD. Why, because the price is
fair. Then you go and throw in free shipping and the price is even
more fair. Same deal on your stickers and other home made materials.
You're good at this. So why don't you stick to the things you're good
at instead of screwing people on the other products?

I have exactly two problems with you:

1. Buying at retail and selling at several times retail.
2. Your flippant attitude and half-truths.

I know, you don't care what I think. That's fine. Recognize, however,
that I'm not alone, and these are the reasons people are "picking on
you." Stop these activities and I'm betting the "picking" subsides.

-Ryan

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