Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

So how are the JZD tribute stickers coming along or did you decide to 
not make them?

Mark V


On May 23, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Videobob Moseley wrote:

> Mark, all of what you are saying is absolutely true.
> I buy items at wholesale, in some cases I modify them, repackage them,
> write manuals for each product, advertise it and mark the price up.
> That is all absolutely true.
> There is a cost to doing business, and an average markup.
> What I don't understand is why it is when I do it, it is "highway 
> robbery"
> but for everyone else it is just business?
> I don't run a charity here, and there is no charity in indulging people
> with DeLorean collectables.
> These are toys, and should be paid for.
> I am running a business Marc.
>
> This is the standard retail business MO.
> That's how it works, wholesale, retail.
> The reason I make $8 off a $2 cost of a DVD is because I spent several
> thousand
> dollars on a DVD duplication system, with a thermal printer, a color 
> disc
> printer,
> a $15,000 computer that runs all this stuff, and I also had to acquire 
> the
> video,
> edit it, clean it up, compile it and store it.
> Then I have to pay to advertise it, pay for my website, pay for monthly
> bandwidth,
> pay for ebay and Paypal fees..... so you see it is not all found money.
> I run a television production studio here.
> Besides that, I have to take the time out of my day to drive to the 
> disc
> supplier
> and invest into stock, I have to take the time to burn and print the 
> discs,
> put them
> in envelopes, fill out the labels and take them to the post office.
> It might not be ditch digging work but it is time consuming.
>
> I consider it a service, the people who get to enjoy watching this 
> wonderful
> video
> are thankful that they got to see it. Otherwise it would not exist and 
> they
> would
> have gone without.
>
> You know, you always mention my LED's and how I mark them up.
> How come no one has ever mentioned that Don Stegar sells a similar set 
> for
> $39.99?
> This is $10.00 more than mine.
> I am willing to bet that almost everything he sells is marked up 
> generously.
> This is not a jab at Don, I like Don, but I am proving the point that 
> your
> prejudice
> is biased because I have never heard you complaining about anyone's 
> else's
> prices.
>
> By the way, Tamir does sell a copy of his own video from his site.
> It is very good and I recommend it.
> He also sells the replacement stainless steel labels, or at least he
> advertises them.
> I also bought a set of those.
>
> I feel that the ability to buy this stuff from each other is a great
> privilege.
> I also think that I deserve the chump change I get for profits off of 
> my
> stuff.
> If not had been for my researching the LED's and bringing them to 
> public
> awareness
> some of you would not have figured out how to circumvent me.
> Either way I feel I get the credit for it - because NO ONE else was 
> offering
> these.
> I feel the same way about my side stripes, no one else took the time 
> to find
> the material
> and make exact replicas of the stripes - people COPIED me but I still
> deserve the credit.
> I have never seen anyone else make vinyl bumper letters before.
> The ones I make look fantastic, and only $10.00.
> You could not get those designed and cut out for $10.00 anywhere - no 
> way.
>
> Plus, as a gesture I don't charge for shipping of my products.
> Most sellers gouge the shit out of you with "shipping and handling" - 
> NOT
> ME.
>
> So as business goes, I think I do good business Marc.
> I think my prices are fair, and my quality is good.
> I don't see what it is I am doing wrong and why you don't like it.
> There is no other explanation other than you had disagreed with me in 
> the
> past
> and had become biased against everything I do.
> It is childish and silly - cut it out.
>
> - Videobob
>
>> From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos
>> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> VB does it for profit.  I don't see how Tamir is
>> making money off of his site.  He does not even sell
>> advertising space!
>>
>> So, in comparing Tamir to Bob we can say BOTH made a
>> significant effort in collecting this footage,
>> digitizing it, and editing it...  Where they diverge
>> is how they choose to distribute the material.
>>
>> Tamir spends his own money (I assume) to host this
>> material on the Internet.  Large downloads = high
>> bandwidth = more expensive hosting fees.  Yet, he does
>> not charge anyone anything.
>>
>> Bob buys some blank DVD-R's, copies the video, and
>> puts it in the mail.  A process that costs about $2.
>> He is making a $8 per disk profit. (I am only talking
>> about his disk that contain footage that he does not
>> own)
>>
>> Yes, I know about the time to blah blah blah.. But for
>> means of comparing Bob to Tamir, those things are
>> pretty much equal.
>>
>> When you look at the DVD sales, along with VB's other
>> items (over priced items like Antennas, LED's, Radio
>> Harness), it sets a tone for the way the guy does
>> business.  IMHO, the profit he demands for doing
>> minimal research in to sourcing parts is highway
>> robbery.  It is not like the guy has a R&D facility
>> where he is inventing a new and better LED.
>>
>> And, NO.. My motivation has nothing to do with
>> religion or Bob's views on social issues, because many
>> times I agree with him even though I find his
>> presentation of those opinions are somewhat insulting.
>>
>> ... Again, I am not finding fault with Bob the man..
>> Just some of the things he does.
>>
>> --- therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>> With this said however, I seriously think that all
>>> things considered
>>> here, I think that VideoBob has been unfairly gotten
>>> a bad rap here.
>>> I honestly do not see the difference between what
>>> Tamir has done with
>>> his website, and what VideoBob did for his. Both
>>> offered up DeLorean
>>> material that they believed the community was
>>> interested in. Tamir
>>> offers short clips for download and distribution off
>>> of his website,
>>> and VB offers longer full length videos, available
>>> on DVD. And of
>>> course he charges for his time to make said copies
>>> for others. He's
>>> had to scan, and encode the video, as well as take
>>> the time to
>>> contruct the DVD menus, etc., Just as Tamir took the
>>> time to scan,
>>> encode, crop, and upload. And neihter are taking the
>>> time to lay
>>> claim to any ownership.
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>
>>
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