Mark,
How does anyone know that you don't own the McDonalds franchise that they
work at.
A lot of people own them and make a hansom living.
John Hervey
-----Original Message-----
From: DMCVIN6683 [mailto:dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:12 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
So now your saying i cant afford my Delorean and i work at McDonalds
because i dont have an extra $5000 to dump in my car.
You really should meet people before you shit talk about them.
I work so my Wife can sit home and work and raise our 1 1/2 year old
and i rather put that $5000 into a bank account than a damn car.
Quit typing like a prick and actually use your brain before you type
next time.
Remember you just told most of this newsgroup they work at McDonalds
and they should drive a Chevette because they have higher priorities in
life than a Damn Delorean, i dont think anybody's Delorean on this
forum would meet your standards.
Mark V
On Feb 20, 2005, at 11:40 PM, Videobob Moseley wrote:
>
> ..as I said, work in progress is at least a plan.
> What I am talking about is people who no plans on fixing the car and
> just
> let it rot
> while they drive it and rig what they need.
> I know people will still drive their cars while they are being worked
> on and
> they
> are not going to be perfect....yeah and I know not everyone is made of
> money
> to be fixing up the cars, yadda yadda yadda....
> This is a rich mans toy, if you can't afford to play then don't.
> That's all I have to say about it.
>
> It is the few bad apples that make it hard for everyone.
> This is true in every aspect of life, and also true for these cars.
>
> Hey, it's your car and you can do what you want with it.
> Your level of care, pride and dedication will show when people see
> your car.
> I am not talking about big money here.
> Hell, you can refurbish the whole car for about $5000, if that kinda
> money
> is
> kicking your ass then you might want to get that Chevette I mentioned.
> It will look more acceptable parked outside your job at McDonalds.
> I would prefer that image that surrounds my car be one of class and
> prestige.
> People think the car is worth a whole lot more than it is....but not
> if it
> looks like crap.
>
> -VB
>
>> From: "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
>> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:39:24 -0500
>>
>> I will agree with some of that, but a lot of people's cars are works
>> in
>> process. I will add another perspective, ironically using the
>> Lamborghini
>> as well.
>>
>> I pulled into the Luxor hotel parking lot in Las Vegas and saw about
>> ten
>> Lamborghinis, a Maserati, and a couple of Vipers parked in this
>> roped-off
>> section of the parking garage. At first I thought it was a little
>> car show
>> to attract attention so went to check them out. Since this was near
>> midnight, the security guard came over and checked us out as well.
>>
>> I noticed a Lamborghini Diablo that had near bald tires, faded paint,
>> and
>> the front was peppered with rock chips like I have never seen on any
>> other
>> car. I couldn't believe someone would be out in a car like this.
>> Then, I
>> spotted a business card stuck on each car and picked one up.
>>
>> This was a group of people in a Lamborghini Driving Club out of
>> California
>> that take road trips in their cars. The wear and tear on the car was
>> from
>> use. That changed my opinion on how that car looked and actually
>> really
>> impressed me. How many people spend that kind of money on a car and
>> really
>> drive it? You would expect to see a pristine Lamborghini because
>> most, I
>> would think, are in someone's garage and get driven around the block
>> every
>> other year. What a waste. I would drive mine.
>>
>> Jay Leno once said something I thought was pretty cool. When asked
>> about
>> his cars, he stated he likes to fix them up, drive them for a bit,
>> and then
>> fix them up again. After all, they are cars that were designed to be
>> driven.
>>
>> I do really enjoy seeing De Loreans that are pristine as well and I
>> appreciate those people keeping their cars that way. Ken's 170 mile
>> car
>> was
>> stunning to me. I would be too tempted to drive it though.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:37 PM
>> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH open house...
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert, (vegas),
>> this is not a direct reply to you but rather a statement to everyone,
>> so no
>> offense.......
>>
>> I am not about to argue restoration vs. original paint and these
>> opinions.
>> I agree, an early 1900's Harley or Indian with original paint
>> (cracked,
>> faded) is worth more
>> than one with a stripped restored paint job....
>> but I don't think that this same thing applies.....not when there are
>> a
>> thousand brand
>> new painted fascias stacked up at DMCH.
>> ....a few hundred years from now when there are none to be found, and
>> you
>> have the
>> the only real fascia on the planet and everyone else has replaced
>> theirs
>> with a reproduction
>> then your faded paint will have some value and respect.
>> Until that time when someone looks at your car and sees the paint
>> falling
>> off they will think...
>> "Gee, the paint is falling right off the car! What a piece of shit".
>> At least, that's what I think.
>> There are plenty of 20+ year old cars with all the paint in tact.
>> There is no reason the car should be looking bad when there are
>> simple and
>> CHEAP
>> solutions for all of these problems.
>> If the fascias were hard to get, expensive and hard to put on I could
>> understand
>> the reasoning for not replacing it, but you can order one from DMCH
>> or a
>> refurbished
>> one from Josh or others, get it in a few days, and put it on in
>> MINUTES.
>> I think it only took me about 10 or 15 minutes to put it on.
>>
>> Considering what it would cost to replace the front bumper fascia on
>> my
>> Taurus or any
>> other new car, the price for replacing the fascia on the front of a
>> classic
>> exotic sports car
>> is more than reasonable.
>> Ever priced the front bumper of a Lamborghini?
>> You can't get one for $700.00 I tell you that.
>>
>> Speaking of Lamborghini's, I am going to tell my story of the first
>> time I
>> saw one (again)
>> so that maybe you would understand.
>> ......as a kid, I worshiped the Lamborghini Countach.
>> I had posters everywhere.
>> I told my mom that when I was old enough I was going to get a tattoo
>> of a
>> Lamborghini on
>> my arm, and the Bull Logo on the other.... (thank God she would'nt
>> let me!)
>> When I was 16, I saved up the money to buy one of the kit-cars, and
>> sent
>> IFG
>> a $1000 deposit.
>> Once I realized I would never be able to complete it I had to forfeit
>> the
>> money.
>> ....so anyway, one day I am driving down the road and I see a white
>> Lamborghini Countach
>> parked outside a business. Until then I had never seen one in person.
>> I screeched to a stop and ran over to it, the owner came out to show
>> it to
>> me.
>> It looked like SHIT. I asked, "is this a replica?".
>> "No" he says, "let me show you the engine". He opens the engine lid
>> and the
>> engine
>> was crusty looking, he fired it up and it sputtered and puffed smoke
>> and
>> sounded like
>> a Volkswagen bus.
>> The interior was all ripped up, cracked, looked like hell.
>> I couldn't believe it.
>> I was so disappointed. It left a bad taste in my mouth that is
>> nothing less
>> than bitter.
>> I never forgot it.
>>
>> This is the equivalent to meeting your favorite star and asking for an
>> autograph
>> and being told to "fuck off". Imagine how you would feel?
>>
>> For most people, when they see our cars it is the first and maybe
>> only time
>> they
>> will ever see a DeLorean.
>> It is our responsibility as DeLorean owners to make sure they are
>> presentable and
>> reflect the "dream". JZD's "dream" was not to have the car known as a
>> "lemon".
>> We have so many hurdles to overcome with the public awareness and
>> misinformation
>> about cocaine, and that the cars are lemons, and unreliable...etc.
>> The last thing that I want is someone to see one of our cars looking
>> badly
>> and
>> and the person will forever say,...."yeah, I saw a DeLorean once, it
>> was a
>> peice of shit."
>>
>> So, I know some of you out there can't afford to to spend money on
>> the car,
>> but as long as you understand my point of view and at least make
>> plans to
>> repair
>> and upgrade then you are on the right track.
>>
>> Here are the most common things that look bad and can be repaired or
>> replaced easily.
>>
>> * Dash & Binnacle:
>> Can be purchased from DMCH or recovered by any upholstery shop.
>> Josh sells recovered dashes, binnacles, knee pads, etc.
>>
>> * Headliner:
>> You can recover these yourself very cheap, any auto headliner place
>> can do
>> this.
>>
>> * Seat Covers: $599
>> The new DMCH seat covers are one of the best investments you can make.
>> I have them and I always get compliments on them even from people who
>> have
>> never seen a DeLorean, they can't believe how fluffy, soft and supple
>> they
>> are.
>> They are worth every penny. Most auto seat cover places can install
>> them
>> for
>> under $100.
>>
>> * Switches: $40 each, (less than $180 for all of them)
>> You can replace your window and defroster switches real cheap, and the
>> dummy
>> switches can be replaced with working rocker switches that you can
>> use for
>> other uses.
>> I have seen tons of cars with faded grey and even green moldy
>> switches.
>> Many previous owners have drilled holes into the dummy switches and
>> installed
>> goofy little toggle switches.
>> Replace them and wire those switches to the new rockers.
>> These are only about $40 each - not a big price for an exotic sports
>> car.
>> While you are replaceing them you can straighten out the metal part
>> that
>> they
>> mount to so they will all be even and straight.
>>
>> *Carpet:
>> You can pull the seats out easy and replace the whole lower carpet for
>> about
>> $300 or so.
>>
>> * Faded Black:
>> You can tape off and paint all the little black parts on your car real
>> easy.
>> If they are faded gray or white then give them a hit of flat black.
>> They will have a nice texture and look new again.
>> (I used the Kent Ureolastic Black Bumper paint that Don Stegar sells.)
>>
>> *Fascias:
>> Replace or repaint them. If they are badly warped, replace them and
>> reinforce them to
>> prevent it from happening again.
>>
>> * Lenses:
>> If your taillights are faded and the color is missing, REPLACE them.
>> If your headlights are yellow and foggy, replace them.
>>
>> * Rims:
>> You can repaint your rims yourself, but it is best to have them powder
>> coated.
>> I have Don Stegars chromed rims and I get lots of complements,
>> however if
>> you want
>> to keep everything original, you can buy new rims that look new
>> cheaper
>> than
>> you would think.
>> Much cheaper than custom rims would cost you for your low rider.
>>
>> I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
>> I have said this before and I always get shit about it, but it's the
>> way I
>> feel.
>> If you want to have a DeLorean it is your responsibility to keep it
>> up and
>> make it
>> look good, if you can't afford to drop a few grand into the car to
>> fix it
>> up
>> then sell it
>> to someone who WILL appreciate it and fix it up and buy yourself a
>> Chevette.
>> Then you can drive a piece of shit and no one will care.
>>
>> If you dissagree then get out of the "community", our togetherness is
>> fueled
>> by our love for the cars, you don't neglect something you love.
>>
>> - Videobob
>> VIN#5278
>>
>> PS: Robert, this was not an attack on you personally, just a general
>> statement :>
>>
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