..as I said, work in progress is at least a plan.
What I am talking about is people who no plans on fixing the car and just
let it rot
while they drive it and rig what they need.
I know people will still drive their cars while they are being worked on and
they
are not going to be perfect....yeah and I know not everyone is made of money
to be fixing up the cars, yadda yadda yadda....
This is a rich mans toy, if you can't afford to play then don't.
That's all I have to say about it.
It is the few bad apples that make it hard for everyone.
This is true in every aspect of life, and also true for these cars.
Hey, it's your car and you can do what you want with it.
Your level of care, pride and dedication will show when people see your car.
I am not talking about big money here.
Hell, you can refurbish the whole car for about $5000, if that kinda money
is
kicking your ass then you might want to get that Chevette I mentioned.
It will look more acceptable parked outside your job at McDonalds.
I would prefer that image that surrounds my car be one of class and
prestige.
People think the car is worth a whole lot more than it is....but not if it
looks like crap.
-VB
>From: "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:39:24 -0500
>
>I will agree with some of that, but a lot of people's cars are works in
>process. I will add another perspective, ironically using the Lamborghini
>as well.
>
>I pulled into the Luxor hotel parking lot in Las Vegas and saw about ten
>Lamborghinis, a Maserati, and a couple of Vipers parked in this roped-off
>section of the parking garage. At first I thought it was a little car show
>to attract attention so went to check them out. Since this was near
>midnight, the security guard came over and checked us out as well.
>
>I noticed a Lamborghini Diablo that had near bald tires, faded paint, and
>the front was peppered with rock chips like I have never seen on any other
>car. I couldn't believe someone would be out in a car like this. Then, I
>spotted a business card stuck on each car and picked one up.
>
>This was a group of people in a Lamborghini Driving Club out of California
>that take road trips in their cars. The wear and tear on the car was from
>use. That changed my opinion on how that car looked and actually really
>impressed me. How many people spend that kind of money on a car and really
>drive it? You would expect to see a pristine Lamborghini because most, I
>would think, are in someone's garage and get driven around the block every
>other year. What a waste. I would drive mine.
>
>Jay Leno once said something I thought was pretty cool. When asked about
>his cars, he stated he likes to fix them up, drive them for a bit, and then
>fix them up again. After all, they are cars that were designed to be
>driven.
>
>I do really enjoy seeing De Loreans that are pristine as well and I
>appreciate those people keeping their cars that way. Ken's 170 mile car
>was
>stunning to me. I would be too tempted to drive it though.
>
>Greg
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:37 PM
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH open house...
>
>
>
>Robert, (vegas),
>this is not a direct reply to you but rather a statement to everyone, so no
>offense.......
>
>I am not about to argue restoration vs. original paint and these opinions.
>I agree, an early 1900's Harley or Indian with original paint (cracked,
>faded) is worth more
>than one with a stripped restored paint job....
>but I don't think that this same thing applies.....not when there are a
>thousand brand
>new painted fascias stacked up at DMCH.
>....a few hundred years from now when there are none to be found, and you
>have the
>the only real fascia on the planet and everyone else has replaced theirs
>with a reproduction
>then your faded paint will have some value and respect.
>Until that time when someone looks at your car and sees the paint falling
>off they will think...
>"Gee, the paint is falling right off the car! What a piece of shit".
>At least, that's what I think.
>There are plenty of 20+ year old cars with all the paint in tact.
>There is no reason the car should be looking bad when there are simple and
>CHEAP
>solutions for all of these problems.
>If the fascias were hard to get, expensive and hard to put on I could
>understand
>the reasoning for not replacing it, but you can order one from DMCH or a
>refurbished
>one from Josh or others, get it in a few days, and put it on in MINUTES.
>I think it only took me about 10 or 15 minutes to put it on.
>
>Considering what it would cost to replace the front bumper fascia on my
>Taurus or any
>other new car, the price for replacing the fascia on the front of a classic
>exotic sports car
>is more than reasonable.
>Ever priced the front bumper of a Lamborghini?
>You can't get one for $700.00 I tell you that.
>
>Speaking of Lamborghini's, I am going to tell my story of the first time I
>saw one (again)
>so that maybe you would understand.
>......as a kid, I worshiped the Lamborghini Countach.
>I had posters everywhere.
>I told my mom that when I was old enough I was going to get a tattoo of a
>Lamborghini on
>my arm, and the Bull Logo on the other.... (thank God she would'nt let me!)
>When I was 16, I saved up the money to buy one of the kit-cars, and sent
>IFG
>a $1000 deposit.
>Once I realized I would never be able to complete it I had to forfeit the
>money.
>....so anyway, one day I am driving down the road and I see a white
>Lamborghini Countach
>parked outside a business. Until then I had never seen one in person.
>I screeched to a stop and ran over to it, the owner came out to show it to
>me.
>It looked like SHIT. I asked, "is this a replica?".
>"No" he says, "let me show you the engine". He opens the engine lid and the
>engine
>was crusty looking, he fired it up and it sputtered and puffed smoke and
>sounded like
>a Volkswagen bus.
>The interior was all ripped up, cracked, looked like hell.
>I couldn't believe it.
>I was so disappointed. It left a bad taste in my mouth that is nothing less
>than bitter.
>I never forgot it.
>
>This is the equivalent to meeting your favorite star and asking for an
>autograph
>and being told to "fuck off". Imagine how you would feel?
>
>For most people, when they see our cars it is the first and maybe only time
>they
>will ever see a DeLorean.
>It is our responsibility as DeLorean owners to make sure they are
>presentable and
>reflect the "dream". JZD's "dream" was not to have the car known as a
>"lemon".
>We have so many hurdles to overcome with the public awareness and
>misinformation
>about cocaine, and that the cars are lemons, and unreliable...etc.
>The last thing that I want is someone to see one of our cars looking badly
>and
>and the person will forever say,...."yeah, I saw a DeLorean once, it was a
>peice of shit."
>
>So, I know some of you out there can't afford to to spend money on the car,
>but as long as you understand my point of view and at least make plans to
>repair
>and upgrade then you are on the right track.
>
>Here are the most common things that look bad and can be repaired or
>replaced easily.
>
>* Dash & Binnacle:
>Can be purchased from DMCH or recovered by any upholstery shop.
>Josh sells recovered dashes, binnacles, knee pads, etc.
>
>* Headliner:
>You can recover these yourself very cheap, any auto headliner place can do
>this.
>
>* Seat Covers: $599
>The new DMCH seat covers are one of the best investments you can make.
>I have them and I always get compliments on them even from people who have
>never seen a DeLorean, they can't believe how fluffy, soft and supple they
>are.
>They are worth every penny. Most auto seat cover places can install them
>for
>under $100.
>
>* Switches: $40 each, (less than $180 for all of them)
>You can replace your window and defroster switches real cheap, and the
>dummy
>switches can be replaced with working rocker switches that you can use for
>other uses.
>I have seen tons of cars with faded grey and even green moldy switches.
>Many previous owners have drilled holes into the dummy switches and
>installed
>goofy little toggle switches.
>Replace them and wire those switches to the new rockers.
>These are only about $40 each - not a big price for an exotic sports car.
>While you are replaceing them you can straighten out the metal part that
>they
>mount to so they will all be even and straight.
>
>*Carpet:
>You can pull the seats out easy and replace the whole lower carpet for
>about
>$300 or so.
>
>* Faded Black:
>You can tape off and paint all the little black parts on your car real
>easy.
>If they are faded gray or white then give them a hit of flat black.
>They will have a nice texture and look new again.
>(I used the Kent Ureolastic Black Bumper paint that Don Stegar sells.)
>
>*Fascias:
>Replace or repaint them. If they are badly warped, replace them and
>reinforce them to
>prevent it from happening again.
>
>* Lenses:
>If your taillights are faded and the color is missing, REPLACE them.
>If your headlights are yellow and foggy, replace them.
>
>* Rims:
>You can repaint your rims yourself, but it is best to have them powder
>coated.
>I have Don Stegars chromed rims and I get lots of complements, however if
>you want
>to keep everything original, you can buy new rims that look new cheaper
>than
>you would think.
>Much cheaper than custom rims would cost you for your low rider.
>
>I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
>I have said this before and I always get shit about it, but it's the way I
>feel.
>If you want to have a DeLorean it is your responsibility to keep it up and
>make it
>look good, if you can't afford to drop a few grand into the car to fix it
>up
>then sell it
>to someone who WILL appreciate it and fix it up and buy yourself a
>Chevette.
>Then you can drive a piece of shit and no one will care.
>
>If you dissagree then get out of the "community", our togetherness is
>fueled
>by our love for the cars, you don't neglect something you love.
>
>- Videobob
>VIN#5278
>
>PS: Robert, this was not an attack on you personally, just a general
>statement :>
>
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