[DMCForum] Re: H2: Go anyhere. Including directly to jail; Do not collect $200.

["Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx>]

I thinks the whole charade of beautifying trucks, and glamorizing 
SUV, which once stood for sport utility vehicle is funny. The 
Lincoln Navigator, and Cadillac Escalade are the best, something 
that would NEVER go offroad, to cater to the yuppy market to make 
them feel strong safe & stylish. All basically something they don't 
need. 

I only call the H2 as whoring the H1 because when the Hummer first 
came out it was the most hard core bad assed vehicle you could buy 
for public use. Excluding the ultra goofy Bad Boy trucks, it might 
still be. The whoring comes from the fact that the awe inspiring 
image of pure monstrous beat on wheels HUMMER has been tried to be 
carried over to the uber yuppie market in a repackaged H2 fashion.

Basically the same trand as Escalades & Navigators. Vehicles which 
look beautiful, but are not as functional as they say they are, or 
as their tru heritage is.

They are merely fad vehicles, nich market vehicles. If the H2 were 
just as tough, and just as powerful as the H1, then I would have NO 
beef with the H2. But it doesn't. 

If JDZ were to make a truly revolutionary car again, albeit 4 door 
or not, if it was as cool and as great of a design ad the original, 
then yes I'd approve of it. If it was merely a piece of shit to 
capatilize on the DMC name, then I'd consider that "whoring" out the 
DMC name as well. Using you nameplate with a reputation to sell 
something which isn't that great, but with the hope that the great 
name attached to the vehicle will drive sales solely on previous 
reputation. Aka the H2.

I don't take nothing personal, and my reasonable approach to 
transportation obviously doesn't apply to real world markets, or 
there wouldn't be so many monstrous SUV's that have never even seen 
a bumpy road.

Like I said, if I lived in a backwoods area with no roads, and I had 
to make my own way to make it to civilization for supplies, then 
hell yes, I'd get a Hummer, but the H1, as I'd need something that 
could get through. The H2 would break.




Joe OBrien



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Well see now you have backed up a tad.  Before you were stating 
that it was
> a gussied up Tahoe, now it is just over hyped and whoring.  IMO no 
different
> than an Escalade or Navigator, but look cooler and are more 
luxurious and
> capable.  I suppose if GM had given it a different name you would 
like it
> better, but since it is a Hummer brand it must be whoring out the 
name.  
> 
>  
> 
> You also keep comparing it to the H1 and say if you had to buy one 
that the
> real one.  So what is the real Ford, Chevy, DChrysler?  What is 
the correct
> model from that lineup people should be buying based on your 
expert opinion
> oh wise one? (snickering as I write, don't take personally lol)
> 
>  
> 
> There has been talk on here before about the 4 door sedan that JZD 
was
> planning, would that also be whoring out the DeLorean name?  Why 
is widening
> the product line whoring?  Without product line expansion we all 
would have
> reel to reel film projectors and drive Ford Model "A"'s lol.
> 
>  
> 
> Jack Stiefel -- Tampa, Florida
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>   _____  
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> From: Joe OBrien [mailto:joeyoseppijoe@xxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:16 PM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DMCForum] Re: H2: Go anyhere. Including directly to 
jail; Do not
> collect $200.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I've driven 2 differnt ones Jack, I just think they are an 
overhyped 
> joke that is whoring out the H1.
> 
> And I tell the people at car shows I wrapped a Bradley GT in 
> aluminum.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jack Stiefel <jackstiefel@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > See now here is Joe, spreading mis-information.  Have you been 
> inside
> > an H2, have you looked at the specs on the H2?  I think you have 
> heard
> > lots of rumors and web sites devoted to the hate of this 
vehicle.  
> I
> > posted a while back the specs on the H2 and it is not 
a "gussied" 
> up
> > Tahoe.  But I suppose you go to car shows and tell people about 
> your
> > Stainless Steel Lotus too.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Feb 17, 2005, at 6:37 PM, Joe OBrien wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Typical H2 owner ego. They feel invincible in those things. 
> They
> > > > think they own some road warrior machine, when it is just a 
> gussied
> > > > up Chevy Tahoe.
> > > >
> 
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