[DMCForum] Re: Religion...

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

Your posts are VERY nice. Keep up the good work!

Flavia - NJ
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx> 
wrote:
> 
> Well, life does suck, Bob. And truth be told, I wouldn't have it any
> other way.
> 
> How sweet would the sugar be if you never knew what a lemon tasted
> like? Truth be told, it would be bland. So how much more of a good
> person would you consider yourself to be, if you were never given 
the
> opprotunity to show it?
> 
> The concept of Ying and Yang is an amazing one when you think about
> it. The friction of opposing forces truly is what drives our
> existance. If we didn't have to go out to work everyday, if 
everything
> was provided for us, where would we be? Nowhere. Hell, Darwinian 
proof
> of this can be found with cultures of the world. Look at those 
peopls
> in the Pacific islands. You've got people who eat fruit, and only
> occasionally need to hunt. Otherwise, they lead an easy, carefree,
> boring lifestyle that accomplishes nothing in the end. And 
sometimes,
> shit gets out of control with ritualistic sacrifices, and 
canibalism.
> So we have two possible outcomes from these little isolated utopias 
of
> either complete "Lord of the Flies" type chaos, or cultural and
> developmental stagninity.
> 
> Now, compare that to us industrialized countries. "Nessesity is the
> Mother of all Invention." -Not just a saying, but a practical rule 
of
> life. We needed to tend to agriculture, so we first created tools to
> work the land to sow the seeds of our crops. Next, we needed to
> control the water to irrigate the crops, so we mastered irrigation
> with our aqueducts, flood control devices, and later, our sprinkler
> systems. Then to harvest said crops, we devised handtools, and later
> combined other technologies to create behemeth machines that could
> work faster, longer, and more efficient than human hands.
> 
> As the human race has developed, we have matured as a species 
overall,
> just as we do as individuals. To explain this, let me ask you this,
> Bob. Would you really want to have remained a child all your life? 
As
> you aged, you've gained knowlege, you've had accomplishments I'm
> certain. And you've got a loving wife, and a son that I know for a
> fact you are extremely proud of. Wonderful, and wonderous 
experiences
> have entered your life, as well some that have been painful, and
> discomforting. And that can be said of everyone. So once again, 
would
> you really want life to be any different? As we all grow up into
> adults, and cease to be children, we all must put away childish
> things, and take on adult responsabilities. But the rewards that we
> gain, and the pleasures that we take part of as adults in life are 
far
> greater than the simplistic comforts, and rules that we must endure 
as
> children. Of course, you've always got to take the good with the 
bad,
> so hey, there it is.
> 
> As for our dependance on forien oil, antiquated technologies, and
> socio-economic slavery, it's just like we're in school again. You've
> got big bullies that sometimes come to power, and want to dictate to
> us, what we should do, according to what suits their 
demands. "Gimmie
> your lunch money, or else I'll beat you up!" does sound an awful lot
> like "Invest your savings into venture capital retirement schemes, 
or
> else when you do retire, you be spending your twilight years at the
> local YMCA!" We can only overcome such things, when we choose to. 
It's
> easier to fillup at the gas pump & pay an asinine price for fuel, 
than
> it is to rally people, and acctively defy the powers that be.
> 
> However, we must also take the time to make sure that we're doing 
our
> homework, and those changes that we want to take place, really are a
> better alternative than what we currently rely on. Hydrogen powered
> cars are a bigger danger to our enviornment than fossil fuel powered
> vehicles for two reasons: 1: While hydrogen gas does naturally 
occcur
> in the enviornment, it is infact a green house gas that would be 
even
> more destructive to our planet, than all the refrigerants that we
> currently vent into the atmosphere, because people who fill up their
> hydrogen cars won't give a shit when the consistantly spill the fuel
> out. 2: Hydrogen gas has to be made from water. And here in the
> southwestern part of the United states, water isn't exactly all that
> plentiful. Infact, it is illegal in Las Vegas to build a new home,
> with a front lawn, our water situation is so bad. And we can't 
simply
> rob midwestern farmers of their water either.
> 
> So yes, life has allot of problems, and there are no simple 
solutions,
> when you want to have complex results. But I still wouldn't have it
> anyother way. After all, how do you know what your capable of, if
> you're never been put to the test?
> 
> As for slavery, yes, it's wrong, and it needs to be erradicated
> wherever it exists. Although it's there in place of more advanced
> technologies, because there are those that choose not to make the
> switch. Before you simply eradicate any problem, you've got to find
> out why it's there. Be it a particular situation, or even person.
> 
> While life may not always be good to us, it is most certainly a good
> thing.
> 
> -Robert
> 
> ps. I have no religious affliliation, so don't try to figure out 
what
> I am, or am not. I'm just Robert.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bob Brandys <BobB@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > Walt,
> > 
> > Though I agree with you that life is a wonderous thing, I am not 
as 
> > quite convinced that human life is such  good thing.
> > 
> > If mankind keeps on the path it is going,  the ecosystem of this 
planet 
> > will collapse and life  (as we know) it will cease to exist.   
Yes, the 
> > insects will live on!
> > 
> > The  exploitation of humans by other humans is unfounded in 
nature.  
> > There is no slavery in nature.  Yes, there is symbiosis and 
parasitic 
> > relationships, but not slavery.  It is a human exploitative 
invention.
> > 
> > I have great difficulty celebrating the existence of a species 
that has 
> > the capability to understand its relationship to its environment 
and 
> > other species and CONCIOUSLY CHOOSES to destroy that environment 
and 
> > exploit species of its own kind. (to say nothing of its 
exploitation of 
> > other species.)
> > 
> > Yes, there are some good people who realize this problem, but the 
BAD 
> > GUYs have won.  Just like the 2nd and 3 rd class passengers on 
the 
> > Titanic.  THey knew the boat was sinking, but they could not do 
> > anything about it. (Statistically, most 1st class passengers 
survived.) 
> >   Yes, the life boats were only there for 1st class passengers,   
The 
> > codes at that time considered 2nd and 3rd class passengers to be 
> > expendable.
> > 
> > 
> > BOB

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