[DMCForum] Re: Behavior unbecoming of a "Proper Vendor"?

["Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx>]

Now that is interesting, a conspiracy to sell Delorean parts, or is 
it subtle spamming? 

If you stare at the messages from sonnyvr2000 long enough and step 
back from the monitor and look again, a message appears telling you 
to "buy reproduction seat covers from DMCH, you need them"

We're being programmed into buying parts! Maybe sonnyvr2000 ran a 
LOOOOOng line of ehernet cable from DMCH to his house and is 
bootleggin' free internet?????? Explains the same IP??


Conspiracy theories abound......



Joe





--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> Looks like the DML moderatord held this one up.. Did
> not see it in the last cycle, and did not get a
> rejection... YET..
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, there was a message posted to the DML
> signed by James Espey. 
> 
> http://www.projectvixen.com/dmcnews-archive/msg10116.html
> 
> It was later pointed out to me by someone that this
> message was sent from "sonnyvr2000".  For some reason,
> this message has been removed from the Yahoo archives.
> 
> Later in the day, a similar message was posted by
> James:
> 
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/46806
> 
> And, 3 more messages by Sonnyvr2000:
> 
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/46798
> 
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/46799
> 
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/46800
> 
> 
> All four of the messages sent by Sonnyvr2000 came from
> the same IP address, an address that is in common with
> posts made by James from DMCH.
> 
> No big deal, because Sonny said he was in Houston
> getting work done on his car.  It is possible he was
> using a computer at DMCH to send those posts before he
> returned to his home in Springfield, MO. 
> 
> Searching the DML Yahoo archives, it became obvious
> that most of the posts made by Sonnyvr2000 have been
> removed!  The only record of any posts made by this
> person are in quoted responses to his posts.  Why is
> this?
> 
> The only one I found was post 39097, which came from
> an IP address in Houston, TX.  It also happens to be
> on the same ISP as DMCH uses (rr.com).  But Sonny
> claims he lives in MO.  I remember James once saying
> he was from or had family in MO.
> 
> So, I took a look at some e-mail archives of the DML
> from 6/15/2001 to 9/30/2004, and searched for all sent
> by sonnyvr2000@xxxx
> 
> DATE      SUBJECT                  IP
> 7/24/03      Re: Stainless Steel Ill      24.173.4.228
> 8/5/03      windshield antenna      24.173.4.228
> 8/13/03      Monroes and Gabriels      24.173.4.228
> 8/20/03      100404 Wheel bearings !      24.173.4.228
> 9/4/03      Cleaner/Sealer            24.173.4.228
> 10/16/03Re: Door struts and do      24.173.4.228
> 12/1/03      Who wears XXXL?            24.173.4.228
> 1/7/04      Refurbished Fascias      200.9.59.10
> 1/12/04      Permacast wheels?      24.173.4.228
> 2/22/04      New angle drive receiv      24.242.224.139
> 3/7/04      DMCH's performance eng      24.242.228.133
> 3/8/04      DMCH's performance eng      24.173.4.228
> 3/11/04      clutch release bearing      24.173.4.228
> 3/11/04      Exhaust note of DMCH E      24.173.4.228
> 3/29/04      angle drive update      24.173.4.228
> 
> I included the subjects so you can all see the content
> of these messages in your own archives, or at
> http://www.projectvixen.com because they have been
> removed from the Yahoo archives.  Please look at the
> content and evaluate for yourself.
> 
> The bulk of the mail came from 24.173.4.228, which
> also happens to be the same IP address most of James
> Espey posts come from.  Do a search of the Yahoo
> archives for that address and you will see.
> 
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/messagesearch?
query=24.173.4.228
> 
> Assuming Sonnyvr2000 is a real person, why is it that
> his posts are all missing from the official Yahoo
> archives?  And he sure does spend an awful lot of time
> at DMCH, Odd for a guy who lives 700 miles away in
> Springfield, MO (?), and seems to know a lot about
> DeLoreans.  Almost as much as someone who works for a
> DeLorean vendor.
> 
> But, he asked for shipping estimates to Farmington, MO
> 63640 which is over 800 miles from Humble, TX.
> 
> (look @ the quoted text at the bottom)
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/38079
> 
> I would conclude that SonnyV is someone at DMCH.  But,
> is SonnyV a real person? 
> 
> In the past 2 weeks, a few members of the DML have
> been talking about this topic off line.  The purpose
> of getting others involved before "going public" was
> to verify the information to be correct, and make a
> fair decision on how to proceed.  
> 
> I feel the group was unbiased, and we wrestled with
> the pros and cons on what action to take. We concluded
> that someone at DMCH was likely posing as "Sonny", and
> decided that it was wrong to condone this behavior by
> allowing it to remain hidden/be erased and that no one
> in the DeLorean community should allow such to go
> unnoticed. Ultimately, we decided to let the community
> see and think for themselves as to what, if anything,
> should be done.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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