[DMCForum] Re: Marc got a job.

["John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mike,
Thanks a million for that, a very nice offer. I've been to Memphis 
before, and did the graceland tour, but unfortunately did not have 
much more time there to look around. 
What kind of climbing do you do? Did you climb in monument valley? 
I'd love to stand on top of one of the mittens there someday, imagine 
the view! I think at the moment my most favourite "scenery" place in 
America that I have seen is delicate arch at Arches National Park, my 
wife and I were the only ones there last August when the sun came up 
at 5:30am, it was incredible.
Have you ever been to Ireland? There are some amazing places to see 
over here too, you should come for 2 weeks before Eurofest to check 
it out.
Post some pics of your cars + vette, I'd love to see them!
Thanks,
John

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike clemens <rmclemns@xxxx> wrote:
> John,
> 
> Those are all excellent reasons.  Sounds like you like
> to travel as much as me.  I've been in all fifty
> states and climbed in each.  You're absolutily right
> about one thing---there is one hell of a lot to see
> here and I never get tired of looking.
> 
> If you ever happen to be in the Memphis, TN. area, let
> me know.  You've got a place to stay and numerous cars
> to pick from to drive.  (My Vette is fire engine red)
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> --- John Dore <dmcjohn@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Mike,
> > A few reasons...
> > 1. The Great Outdoors - I've been in 42 states in
> > America, and drove 
> > to each one of these with the exception of Hawaii.
> > There is nothing 
> > better than being on the open road in America and
> > exploring some of 
> > the amazing landscapes you guys have over there,
> > such as Monument 
> > Valley, Bryce Canyon, etc.
> > 2. Cars - I don't care what anyone says, American
> > cars are the best! 
> > I love the 60's American Muscle cars, and there are
> > some pretty cool 
> > new cars over there too, Corvettes, Viper,
> > DeLoreans, etc.
> > 3. People - Americans are really cool people, don't
> > listen to the 
> > media if they say everyone is pissed off at
> > Americans, what do they 
> > know. Americans are always welcome and liked in
> > Ireland anyway, I 
> > can't speak for other countries.
> > 4. Standard of living - For the same job, American
> > companies pay much 
> > more than Irish ones. Also, your wages go further in
> > America than 
> > here in Dublin. Your houses are a lot more
> > affordable, and cars are 
> > much cheaper to run, leaving more money over for fun
> > stuff. 
> > 5. America has much better weather than Ireland!
> > 6. There is always something fun to do in America, I
> > don't ever 
> > remember being bored in my time over there, I could
> > go to a drive in 
> > movie, go to Six Flags, drive up to NH and rent a
> > speedboat, go 
> > skydiving, etc. Its just great fun living over
> > there!
> > 
> > Is that enough? I could probably think of a lot more
> > reasons why I'd 
> > like to live there.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike clemens
> > <rmclemns@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Hey John,
> > > 
> > > Why do you want to come to the USA??  I'm not
> > picking
> > > on you or anything like that, just curious.  Seems
> > > like 90% of the world is pissed off at us now and
> > > folks like you renew my faith in the imigration
> > > system.
> > > 
> > > Mike------1630
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- John Dore <dmcjohn@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey Marvin,
> > > > 
> > > > As another guy who works at "computer crap" I
> > know
> > > > where Marc is 
> > > > coming from. It doesn't mean he doesn't take
> > pride
> > > > in his job or is a 
> > > > bad employee, just that its an easy explaination
> > of
> > > > what he does for 
> > > > a living!!
> > > > 
> > > > Most people would stare back at you with a
> > glassy
> > > > look in their eyes 
> > > > if you tried to describe any "computer" job in
> > any
> > > > detail, because 
> > > > lets face it, either they won't have a clue what
> > you
> > > > are talking 
> > > > about, or they couldn't give a shit, as it
> > simply
> > > > sounds really 
> > > > boring when you try and explain it.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, from what I've read Marc say before, he
> > has
> > > > tried knocking on 
> > > > company doors that haven't actually advertised
> > > > positions, as you 
> > > > suggested he could try.
> > > > 
> > > > In my case, I am not too happy working every day
> > > > with computers. Its 
> > > > fine for now, but I hope I have a more
> > interesting
> > > > job in a few years 
> > > > time. The only reason I decided to get a degree
> > in 
> > > > IT&Telecommunications was at the time I chose
> > the
> > > > course (1998) the 
> > > > IT industry was booming in the USA, and I
> > figured it
> > > > was the best 
> > > > line of work to get me a full time job in the
> > USA,
> > > > and I could get 
> > > > sponsored by a company for a visa. Never
> > actually
> > > > had an interest in 
> > > > pursuing it as a long term career. In fact, I
> > would
> > > > have been much 
> > > > happier doing automotive engineering, or music,
> > or
> > > > being a teacher. 
> > > > 
> > > > My plan is still to get to the USA thru IT, work
> > at
> > > > it for another 10 
> > > > years after that, and then reassess if I really
> > want
> > > > to be doing 
> > > > computer crap for the rest of my life, who knows
> > > > what I'll actually 
> > > > decide to do at that point, but the thing is,
> > until
> > > > that point, I'll 
> > > > always do the best job I can, take pride in my
> > work,
> > > > and refer to my 
> > > > job to anyone who asks, as "computer crap", hope
> > > > this clears it up a 
> > > > bit for you! At least this is my view of this
> > line
> > > > of work.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > PS Well done Marc.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Marvin"
> > > > <marv@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > As an employer, if I saw or heard that a newly
> > > > hired employee, when 
> > > > asked what their new job was, answered "computer
> > > > crap", they'd be 
> > > > gone in a flash. Pride in what you do for a
> > living,
> > > > enthusiasm for 
> > > > the company, excitment of being part of a new
> > team,
> > > > and agressiveness 
> > > > to achieve positive results, all these are what
> > is
> > > > needed by your new 
> > > > employer. If you start with a lousy attitude,
> > you'll
> > > > be a lousy 
> > > > employee. You'll grumble even more, when fired,
> > and
> > > > the next job pays 
> > > > 40% less than this one.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You apparently have so much talent and seem to
> > > > enjoy auto related 
> > > > conversations. Why not focus on that industry in
> > the
> > > > computer area. I 
> > > > can guarantee you, that there are companies
> > dying
> > > > for reliable self 
> > > > starting employees with enthusiasm, and computer
> > > > knowledge. Not all 
> > > > companies put out ads. You have to kick doors
> > open
> > > > to sell yourself. 
> > > > It's very easy to be down when out of work for a
> > > > long period of time. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It has been said by others smarter than me,
> > that
> > > > when you find 
> > > > yourself in a lemon pile, make lemonade! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Marv.
> > > > > # 17077
> > > > > marv@xxxx
> > > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   From: Marc Levy 
> > > > >   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
> 
> 
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