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[DMCForum] Re: OBD II (Rich Acuti)
- From: "Mike" <mcquinlan@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 16:47:28 -0000
Autozone does free ODB II testin now.  I guess they figure its a way 
to get you to there store so you can buy parts.
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> 
wrote:
> OBD II is totally meaningless to me -- my vehicles have no sensors 
or
> computers to begin with! Touting it's advantages makes as little 
sense
> as selling tires to a sailboat captain. Any troubleshooting on my
> fleet (which let's be honest is really quite infrequent) is done 
with
> a couple of hand held gauges and meters. 
> 
> Doesn't it cost $50 or so just to hook a car up to one of those
> diagnostic computers? For that kind of money I can simply replace 
the
> suspect part! (Alternator for my AMC: $39.95, lifetime warranty. 
Power
> steering pump for the truck: $69.95. Edelbrock carburetor new in 
the
> box: $239.00)
> 
> The single largest problem I have is lack of time to wash & vacuum.
> That's it. (Properly washing & vacuuming a Lincoln takes 2-3 
hours).
> Yes, I have convenience items not yet repaired, body work not yet
> done, etc, but as we speak I can pick any key from my big ring, 
jump
> in the attendant vehicle, and drive to California. 
> 
> The day the Nazi's take over and try to force me to drive a 
computer
> controlled vehicle is the day I dust off my Schwinn.
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> > Quite true. One of the main points of OBD II (Onboard 
Diagnostics II) 
> > is ease of troubleshooting and to ensure compliance with Federal 
> > emissions regulations.
> > 
> > OBD II which is (I believe) a Federal standard in the United 
States. 
> > To tamper with it is illegal. Back to the main point though, 
with the 
> > proper computer diagnostic equipment, you can test hordes of 
engine 
> > parts, and even activate solenoids and valves through it. It's 
> > supposed to make troubleshooting a snap.
> > 
> > Actual -replacement- of the faulty part is a whole other issue.
> > 
> > Bill, if you think OBD II is bad, Congress is discussing 
> > making "black box" recorders mandatory for vehicles in the U.S. 
If 
> > you get in a wreck, your vehicle data (speed, heading, braking) 
can 
> > be used against you in a court of law. It would of course, be a 
> > Federal offense to tamper or disconnect it.
> > 
> > The day that shit becomes law is the day I buy Julie's Gremlin X 
> > because I'm already sick of the way gov't intrudes into my life. 
I'll 
> > never buy a new vehicle with that crap in it. Especially when I 
can 
> > mount all-disc brakes, an ABS computer and air-bag technology in 
cars 
> > like old Mustangs, etc.
> > 
> > Rich A.
> > #5335
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > ...and for way less than $300.00 I bet someone could have 
connected 
> > a
> > > diagnostics computer to the car and know what was wrong in a 
way 
> > less than
> > > forever and a day. <snip>
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