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[DMCForum] Re: Kerry...
- From: "wannadelorean" <mcquinlan@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:06:31 -0000
> I pointed out Kerry's flip flopping then you equate Bush to Kerry 
as 
> if to suggest that Bush is also a flip flopper.  If you simply say 
> now that your point was only that Bush had no principles,....okay, 
I 
> can take that on as well.
I think you have confused with another post.  I never said anything 
about Kerry.
> So Bush didn't talk about war with Iraq during his campaign so 
> therefore he is a liar???  And 9/11 didn't have anything to do 
with 
> unexpected changes in foreign policy?!?!  And nothing in the way 
of 
> American events could reasonably alter foreign policy????  
Bush was planning to invade Iraq from day 1.  9/11 had nothing to do 
with us going into Iraq. 
Read Paul Oneill's book.  Long before 9/11 Bush and crew were 
planning how they were going
to spin the story. 
> This hardly points to any lack of principles.  If this was the 
case, 
> then Roosevelt had no principles when he declared war on Japan 
> during WWII, JFK had no principles when he stared down the Soviets 
> during the Cuban missle crisis, Carter had no principles when he 
> sent Marines into Iran to rescue hostages and Clinton had no 
> principles when he bombed Kosovo, Sudan and Iraq.  None of these 
men 
> campaigned on such issues.  Are they liars as well????
You comparisons aren't valid.  Bush was planning to Invade Iraq pre-
9/11 and it had nothing to do with events that occured during his 
first few months in office.  It was to settle a score, get some oil 
and scare the surronding Middle Eastern countries.  It was a plan 
cooked up by Karl Rove 10 years earlier.  If Bush Sr. had been re-
elected, Iraq would have been taken long ago.  All it has done is 
turn the world against us and make us less secure than ever.
> 
> What Bush DID tell people was that he was a strong, competent 
leader 
> willing to defend the sovereignty of the United States.  Promise 
> kept!!!!
He also stated that Clinton/Gore were too lax on foreign policy and 
that he was going to strengthen realationsships.  I 
guess "strenghten realationships" means "Bomb the sh*t out of them" 
in Texas.  Oh ya, he also said that we should treat China as an 
enemy and not embrace them as Clinton/Gore did.  I hate to see what 
we have in store for them.  Can you say NEW-CLI-ER.  That's okay, 
Bush can't either.
And what president wouldn't defend the United States?  Any president 
would have attacked Afghanistan after 9/11.   I would argue that 
pulling all our troops out of Afghanistan to address Bush's pre 9/11 
plan wasn't the best way to protect the U.S. either.  Funny how we 
let the guy behind 9/11 get away yet we got the guy he tried to 
borrow some kuwati Oil years earlier.  I guess Oil is more important 
than people.
It is obvious that you are just a Bush fan boy and that no amount of 
discourse will be at all productive here so I'm going to bed.
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