[DMCForum] Re: Kerry...

["wannadelorean" <mcquinlan@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The only politician in the last 20 years that had any principles 
was Ross Perot and you see how far honesty, truth and principles 
got him.

In our political system, the only people who can get elected are the 
ones who shouldn't.


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wannadelorean" <mcquinlan@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Read a little closer.  My thesis was never that he flip flopped.
> 
> "Or is it
> that most of what politicians claim they are going to make better 
> they really have no control over?"
> 
> My point is that politicians (especially ones that win an 
election) 
> have not principles.  They say what they need to in order to get 
> elected and then we find out what they are really up to.
> 
> Did Bush ever talk about going to war with Iraq during the 
> campaign?  No, but it was the primary focus of the administration 
in 
> its first months.  You can't tell me that omitting this goal from 
> the campaign constitutes principals.  It amounts to a lie.  Do you 
> really think he would have been elected if he told America that 
one 
> of his big plans was to invade Iraq?
> 
> > 
> > So Bush claimed that Clinton/Gore's energy policy was no good 
and 
> > subsequently took office only to suffer higher gas prices???
> > 
> > And this somehow qualifies as a flip flop????  I could make an 
> > argument all day long about why gas prices aren't Bush's fault, 
> but 
> > the core of your argument is that he flip flopped.  He was for 
> > cheaper gas then and he is for cheaper gas now.  Where is the 
flip 
> > flop???  Your best argument is that he failed to control oil 
> > pricing.  Even if your correct, failing to do what you attempt 
is 
> a 
> > far cry from flip flopping!  Bush has stayed true to his 
> principles.

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