[DMCForum] Re: I Stand Corrected ("Plastic" DeLoreans) (Ryan)

["ryanpwright" <yahoo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The 4 banger is an "Iron Duke", commonly referred to as the "Iron
Puke". Worthless engine. Never buy a 4 cylinder Fiero.

You know, I'd responded to you twice on this topic, but apparently my
first didn't get posted to the list. I'll try to reconstruct what I'd
said:

Essentially, you're wrong about the body panels being all plastic. The
hood, roof section, and rear decklid are all fiberglass. Don't knock
the plastic panels - Fieros don't dent. I once slid off the road and
into a fence post at a low rate of speed in a Fiero. Left a big
indentation of the post in the front bumper. By the next morning, the
bumper looked brand new again - it just popped itself back out
overnight. A little touch-up paint and you couldn't tell anything had
ever happened.

As for body panels and impacts, http://www.ryanwright.com/fiero/85gt/.
Impact with a light pole head on at ~35mph. Accident was not my fault;
I was intentionally run off the road by some dick who does this (tries
to get people to rear-end him) for a living according to my insurance
agent. Dummy has pins in his back from the last one, but got a nice
settlement out of it, and I just happened to be his next victim.
Unfortunately for him, I hit a light pole instead. Totaled the car. I
walked away. 

As for the sound it makes - it always seemed normal to me. Sounds like
any other small sports car with regular doors.

-Ryan

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> wrote:
> The one I looked at was 4 cylinder. I'm pretty sure it's the old GM
> 151 (itself morphed from the 141 inch "Vega" block). Looked just like
> it -- very familiar with it from the one in my AMC. That being so, can
> guarantee anemic acceleration (from the 4 cylinder).
> 
> I just couldn't get over the sound it makes when you open and close
> hood, doors, etc. Sounds like a giant toy car. Do the body panels pop
> back out after impact like a trash can?
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "ryanpwright" <yahoo1@xxxx> wrote:
> > It's darn near the same car. Both have a 2.8 liter V6, both have
> > almost identical performance, and they are similar in appeal (I've
> > noticed many DeLorean people also like Fieros). The DeLorean handles
> > much better stock, but Fieros can be easily upgraded with aftermarket
> > parts. Mine handles better than my DeLorean.
> > 
> > Fieros really shine when you go custom. Take a look at my '86:
> > 
> > http://www.ryanwright.com/fiero/86se3800sc/forsale/
> > 
> > Supercharged 3.8 and a lot of custom work. While I very much prefer my
> > DeLorean and am selling the Fiero since I don't drive it anymore, it's
> > been hard getting used to the relatively poor acceleration of my D. 
> > 
> > -Ryan
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> wrote:
> > > For a long time I have wondered if the Fiero was something GM
> > conceived long
> > > ago, perhaps when JZD was still there, but never green lighted it
> > and only
> > > did so when the DMC-12 came out, or if they created it in
retaliation.
> > > There are a lot of similarities.
> > > 
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson@xxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:20 AM
> > > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [DMCForum] I Stand Corrected ("Plastic" DeLoreans)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I *HALF* jokingly refer to our cars as "plastic".
> > > 
> > > In the junkyard today (yes Mike, I picked you up some footwell
lights
> > > while I was there) I had the opportunity to study a Pontiac Fiero up
> > > close. THAT'S a plastic car. Looked underneath to verify at least
> > > SOMETHING on the car is made of metal. Everything else is plastic.
> > > Plastic hood. Plastic doors. If you beat on the top it sounds just
> > > like a Rubbermaid trash can. Truly amazing.
> > > 
> > > Under the hood is amazing too. It's the anti-DeLorean. Whereas
things
> > > like brake master cylinder and A/C receiver are less than easy
access
> > > for us, that's *ALL* there is under a Fiero hood (plus a donut
spare).
> > > Components are removable even with a 12" extension on your socket
> > > wrench. Radiator lifts out from above too.
> > > 
> > > Bill Robertson
> > > #5939

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