RE: [DMCForum] Re: Child Car Seats In A DeLorean
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RE: [DMCForum] Re: Child Car Seats In A DeLorean
- From: "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:24:59 -0400
One thing to remember about Florida. I just moved here and have an in
ground pool and in other parts of the country I lived there was a fence law
requiring a fence to be put up around the pool area to protect outside
people, not these screens but a real honest to goodness fence. It seems in
Florida there is no such law, therefore the only protection would be the
pool fence. These screen enclosures we have here are just fine for keeping
out critters and such, but a screen door is easily opened by a kid. I just
had my pool, fence installed last week and could not be happier, in fact I
thought it was already law down here. Someone tell me if I am wrong here as
I am still new.
I for one would never put my kids in the parcel shelf, I Love them too much.
Oh also many newer School Busses do have seat belts for the kids -- if they
use them is unknown to me, but they are there.
Jack Stiefel
www.fmtimemachine.com
Direct listen link: www.live365.com/stations/radiocape
-----Original Message-----
From: ryanpwright [mailto:yahoo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:06 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Child Car Seats In A Delorean
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wannadelorean" <mcquinlan@xxxx> wrote:
> Here is a pic:
> http://www.entermyworld.com/custom/efset2.html
As I said, dangerous and illegal.
> But your reply is so typical of people these days who believe that
> laws are passed to protect us.
I don't believe that at all. Most laws are bullshit. I am the last
person to blindly follow laws. In fact I am known for shocking people
with my ability to think for myself and flat out ignore laws I think
are stupid.
I do believe that, should you get into an accident, your child could
die quite easily in that location. Have you done the engineering work
to understand the impact forces a DeLorean would receive, and what
that could do to a 10 to 30 pound child sitting in that location? How
are you going to tie the seat down securely, and more importantly, do
you understand exactly what those mount points you select could do in
an accident? Are they going to hold? Will they buckle, pull down, and
break the mount points on the seat, thus sending it through the
windshield or anywhere else in the passenger compartment?
I bet any random cop in the U.S. would issue a big fat ticket for
something like this.
> How is it that you and I have to go to expense and trouble of having
> car seats when kids ride on a school bus (or any mass transit for
> that matter) every day with not even a seat belt.
It's a matter of weight. Buses are huge. Big giant machines. Seat
belts aren't required in vehicles of this size for one major reason -
the vast majority of accidents would scarcely affect the passengers on
a bus. We're talking about a vehicle weighing half a dozen tons plus,
colliding with a vehicle weighing a couple tons at most. Sure, the
passengers on the bus will get bumps and bruises and may be dislodged
from their seats, but life threatening injuries while riding on a bus
are fairly uncommon.
A car, on the other hand....
> Car seats do save
> lives but the reason they are required by law has more to do with
> political lobbying than rational thinking. So the fact that
> something is "illegal" doesn't immediately make it a bad idea.
That's a load of BS and you know it. Most accidents would positively
kill a loose child. No rational person would toss an infant in the
back seat and drive off. Requiring children to be properly secured is
perfectly rational thinking.
> A good example of stupid laws that are meant to protect us: Safety
> fences around swimming pools.
We aren't talking about swimming pools. But since you bring it up, I
mostly agree with you.
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