[DMCForum] Urp -- Now I Remember Why Gave Up On The Forum

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Oh please...

Horsepower is a chimera. Remove either torque or RPM from the
equation, and it vanishes. It ceases to exist. "Horsepower" is nothing
more than an _expression_ of a certain amount of torque produced at a
certain number of engine revolutions.

Did you not take high school algebra?

How can I make it any plainer: Torque is measured independent of
RPM's. Torque is certainly measured independent of "horsepower".
Likewise RPM's are measured independent of torque or "horsepower". But
I absolutely defy you to merely express "hosepower" without both, much
less try to measure it as some sort of independent force. Can't be done.

Urp.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ihaveanaccount@xxxx wrote:
> 
> The village idiot returns.
> 
> Horsepower measures power, therefore a high horsepower engine has
more "power" than a low horsepower engine.  
> 
> The 240HP, 153ftlb F20C engine from honda has the same torque as the
Delorean PRV.  The F20C will outperform the PRV every time.  Just shut
up if you can't figure out what HP is.  
> 
> The audi S-series are fine sports cars, and are luxury as a bonus. 
It's more sport than the Delorean or your damn Lincolns will ever be.  
> 
> 
> Jim
> "HP is basically a measure of TIME" message 10057
> 
>  
> 
> -- "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> wrote:
> Isn't the key word in your post "turbo"? Houston's engine is NOT
> forced induction.
> 
> Plus I hate to point out the obvious, but while an Audi can be called
> many things, "sports car" isn't one of them.
> 
> Torque is the name of the game though, isn't it. Without it, you don't
> tow anything. My Ford truck with "only" 170 HP pulled a 5,000 lbs
> Lincoln over South Mountain (Maryland I-70, ask Mike C or Rich A about
> it) with some effort, but still cresting in 2nd gear.
> 
> Have you noticed all the truck ads on TV tout torque, not HP?
> Horsepower doesn't mean a thing. It's a playground term for white boys
> to toss around in the Autozone parking lot.
> 
> BTW: what's the GTW of that unit body Audi? May need to take it easy
> before you rip the poor thing in half...
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew <aos+yahoo@xxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, content22207 wrote:
> > 
> > > A high torque engine operating in a fairly narrow power band may
post
> > > low HP numbers, but is actually more powerful than a low torque,
high
> > > rev'ing engine with higher HP numbers. That's one reason you never
> see a
> > > sports car towing a boat trailer.
> > 
> > Bill is obviously not familiar with Audi turbo engines.  :-)
> > 
> > > Note also that such an engine is useless until it rev's up to its
> power
> > > band -- if you can't get there, you have nothing. Standing
still, that
> > > 300 HP sports car hooked to a boat trailer would either stall,
or burn
> > > up its clutch/clutch discs, trying to move.
> > 
> > mmm-hmmm... I've got a 450 horsepower, 580 lb-ft twin turbo Audi
> that tows 
> > a 2000 lb trailer just fine, thanks.
> > 
> > Just giving you a hard time, Bill...  :)
> > 
> > -andrew
> 
> 
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